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    20 Oct '08 00:50
    I'm wondering if this is the quickest queen trap possible. I guess I should make my definition of a queen trap clear. If Player A traps Player B's queen, then any move by Player B that does not result in check or threaten Player A's queen will allow Player A to immediately capture the queen with a net material gain for Player A. This definition is probably not perfect, but hopefully, it's sufficient.

    1. e3 e5
    2. Qf3 d5
    3. Bd3 e4
    4. Bb5+ c6
    5. Qf4 Bd6

    If you find a faster one, or even one equal in length, please post it here. I'm curious about this.
  2. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    20 Oct '08 03:52
    Originally posted by twilight2007
    I'm wondering if this is the quickest queen trap possible. I guess I should make my definition of a queen trap clear. If Player A traps Player B's queen, then any move by Player B that does not result in check or threaten Player A's queen will allow Player A to immediately capture the queen with a net material gain for Player A. This definition is proba ...[text shortened]... ind a faster one, or even one equal in length, please post it here. I'm curious about this.
    1. d3 Nf6 2. Nd2 Ne4 3. b3 Nc3

  3. Standard memberSwissGambit
    Caninus Interruptus
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    20 Oct '08 03:54
    Originally posted by twilight2007
    I'm wondering if this is the quickest queen trap possible. I guess I should make my definition of a queen trap clear. If Player A traps Player B's queen, then any move by Player B that does not result in check or threaten Player A's queen will allow Player A to immediately capture the queen with a net material gain for Player A. This definition is proba ...[text shortened]... ind a faster one, or even one equal in length, please post it here. I'm curious about this.
    This one could be faster if you just played 4.Qf4 Bd6 right away.
  4. Joined
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    20 Oct '08 16:37
    A curious one:

    1. D4 C6 2. Bd2 Nf6 3. Ba5 B5 4. B4



    Curious cos it's basically just fools mate, and instead of setting up this position where black's queen is trapped, white could have just taken the queen XD

    Not the best solution, SGs is the best, but yeah.
  5. Joined
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    20 Oct '08 22:261 edit
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    This one could be faster if you just played 4.Qf4 Bd6 right away.
    Good point. It was a momentary lapse of thought. I'm somewhat impressed with a trap within 3 moves though.
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