white to play and win #2

First the easy version

And the advanced version

1.PxB=Q+ KxQ

I would rather call it 'the second chance' version.

First one must be 1.Rd8

Originally posted by Fat Lady
First one must be 1.Rd8

Originally posted by aginis
that is correct,
black is outta time
1.Rd8 c2 2.Rxe8 c1=Q 3.Rxf8 mate

Originally posted by crazyblue
Didn't you say it was mate in 2? That gave me quite some thinking until i scrolled down to here 😉

But I think even mate in 3 isn't correct. What about:
1. Rd8 Bxg7 (2. Rxe8 Bf8 3. Bxe6+ Kh8 4. Rxf8 mate)


edit: in the second one i can't find any mate at all.

I like 1.Kf6 in the second puzzle (after White has blundered by not playing Rd8!), but I can't find a simple win.

Originally posted by Fat Lady
I like 1.Kf6 in the second puzzle (after White has blundered by not playing Rd8!), but I can't find a simple win.

Originally posted by aginis
thats because ther is no "simple" win, can you find a complicated one?
that is to say that after your suggested move you have to find a winning variation for each of blacks 6 moves