white to play and win #2

First the easy version

And the advanced version

1.PxB=Q+ KxQ

I would rather call it 'the second chance' version.

First one must be 1.Rd8

Originally posted by Fat Lady
First one must be 1.Rd8

that is correct,
black is outta time
1.Rd8 c2 2.Rxe8 c1=Q 3.Rxf8 mate

Originally posted by aginis
that is correct,
black is outta time
1.Rd8 c2 2.Rxe8 c1=Q 3.Rxf8 mate

Didn't you say it was mate in 2? That gave me quite some thinking until i scrolled down to here 😉

But I think even mate in 3 isn't correct. What about:
1. Rd8 Bxg7 (2. Rxe8 Bf8 3. Bxe6+ Kh8 4. Rxf8 mate)


edit: in the second one i can't find any mate at all.

Originally posted by crazyblue
Didn't you say it was mate in 2? That gave me quite some thinking until i scrolled down to here 😉

But I think even mate in 3 isn't correct. What about:
1. Rd8 Bxg7 (2. Rxe8 Bf8 3. Bxe6+ Kh8 4. Rxf8 mate)


edit: in the second one i can't find any mate at all.

sorry it wasn't mate in 2 it was puzzle NUMBER 2. 😳

I like 1.Kf6 in the second puzzle (after White has blundered by not playing Rd8!), but I can't find a simple win.

Originally posted by Fat Lady
I like 1.Kf6 in the second puzzle (after White has blundered by not playing Rd8!), but I can't find a simple win.

thats because ther is no "simple" win, can you find a complicated one?
that is to say that after your suggested move you have to find a winning variation for each of blacks 6 moves

Originally posted by aginis
thats because ther is no "simple" win, can you find a complicated one?
that is to say that after your suggested move you have to find a winning variation for each of blacks 6 moves

geez RHP users don't seem up for any in depth analysis
i guess this area is reserved for stupid math questions (which no big surprise 99% of people can't handle either) maybe if i get chess kid1 to post something here it will suddenly become interesting.