Originally posted by FMFyou confronted him on the basis of values that you knew were not real, cast those values up to him again and again despite knowing that they were not real, why would you do that? you never believed them right?
I confronted him for what he was posting. Isn't that what people should do when they encounter hate speech on a debate and discussion forum?
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHis hatred of Muslims was obviously real. Even you have described the posting it resulted in was "hate crime". Hate is surely a "real" value.
you confronted him on the basis of values that you knew were not real, cast those values up to him again and again despite knowing that they were not real, why would you do that? you never believed them right?
14 May 16
Originally posted by FMFwould you also call the police if you heard someone on the telephone arranging a drug deal in full knowledge that they were only play acting, thats akin to what you have done here.
I have been "caught" doing what? Dasa's hatred and vilification of Muslims were "real" values. He expressed them repeatedly. I am not attributing any values to him.
14 May 16
Originally posted by FMFyes but we are discussing his genocidal claims, claims that you knew were not real and yet used those non realities to justify his banning.
His hatred of Muslims was obviously real. Even you have described the posting it resulted in was "hate crime". Hate is surely a "real" value.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBut how is constant lying, vilification and attempted incitement of hatred against Muslims in public in hundreds and hundreds of forum posts analogous with someone play acting on a phone? There is no analogy.
would you also call the police if you heard someone on the telephone arranging a drug deal in full knowledge that they were only play acting, thats akin to what you have done here.
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWe are discussing your defence of what he posted and your condemnation of those who alerted his posts and the moderators who took action against him.
yes but we are discussing his genocidal claims, claims that you knew were not real and yet used those non realities to justify his banning.
14 May 16
Originally posted by FMFno one has claimed that it is FMF, his genocidal claims were certainly unrealistic though were they not? you have stated that even you did not believed them.
But how is constant lying, vilification and attempted incitement of hatred against Muslims in hundreds and hundreds of forum posts analogous with someone play acting on a phone? There is no analogy.
Originally posted by FMFthe basis for this was his genocidal claims, unrealistic, non realities that you, Ghost of a Duke and Rank Outsider used to goad him into being banned despite the fact that you knew they were unreal. Fess up my son and I will hear your confessions.
We are discussing your defence of what he posted and your condemnation of those who alerted his posts and the moderators who took action against him.
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOf course the prospect of him carrying out genocide were nil but they were an element of his hate speech which you have acknowledged as being criminal. This hatred is a "real" value and it was a hatred that was in part delivered by his constant calls for the mass murder of people on the grounds of their religious beliefs. This is the form that hate speech takes. This is why he was banned.
no one has claimed that it is FMF, his genocidal claims were certainly unrealistic though were they not? you have stated that even you did not believed them.
14 May 16
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI am sure Ghost of a Duke and Rank Outsider believed his posting constituted a very real and malicious overt action called hate speech.
the basis for this was his genocidal claims, unrealistic, non realities that you, Ghost of a Duke and Rank Outsider used to goad him into being banned despite the fact that you knew they were unreal. Fess up my son and I will hear your confessions.
14 May 16
Originally posted by FMFan unrealistic element of his hate speech that you cast up to him again and again and gain. how unsavoury!
Of course the prospect of him carrying out genocide were nil but they were an element of his hate speech which you have acknowledged as being criminal. This hatred is a "real" value and it was a hatred that was in part delivered by his constant calls for the mass murder of people on the grounds of their religious beliefs. This is the form that hate speech takes. This is why he was banned.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieJust to confirm, we goaded him into making a multitude of hate filled posts in a multitude of threads of his own creation?
the basis for this was his genocidal claims, unrealistic, non realities that you, Ghost of a Duke and Rank Outsider used to goad him into being banned despite the fact that you knew they were unreal. Fess up my son and I will hear your confessions.
Have you left the frigging planet?!
Originally posted by Ghost of a Dukedid you believe the genocidal claims that Dasa made? did you goad him after he made these claims to make further hateful utterances?
Just to confirm, we goaded him into making a multitude of hate filled posts in a multitude of threads of his own creation?
Have you left the frigging planet?!