06 Oct 14
Originally posted by Great King Rathow is drink beer and dont hurt anyone going to help someone that is tea total? or a psycokiller? its nonsense.
Anyone? Anyone who? You mean people that already have an addiction? Well, for those people there already are programs available to help them cope with their addiction.
Programs that can be proven to exist, by the way, unlike part of your sollution.
Furthermore, both parents and schools need to communicate with children about the possible dangers ...[text shortened]... that the people working in that industry are treated fairly.
That about sums it up, I think.
06 Oct 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieTea total?
how is drink beer and dont hurt anyone going to help someone that is tea total? or a psycokiller? its nonsense.
Psycho killer?
Does this have anything to do with porn?
I didn't say that you should drink beer and don't hurt anyone if you are "tea total" or a psycho killer.
Well, actually, don't hurt anyone would be excellent advice to give to a psycho killer.
See, that one is always applicable.
Originally posted by Great King Ratfine dont hurt anyone is always applicable, especially to psycho killers.
Tea total?
Psycho killer?
Does this have anything to do with porn?
I didn't say that you should drink beer and don't hurt anyone if you are "tea total" or a psycho killer.
Well, actually, don't hurt anyone would be excellent advice to give to a psycho killer.
See, that one is always applicable.
06 Oct 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI wasn't debating whether or not porn addiction exists (I imagine it does).
they may be factual of the study that was conducted yes and i have already stated now for the second time that there is a great divergence of opinion, citing the statement that i made three times. Why you fail to understand that or acknowledge it i cannot say. Here it is again, in bold, so that you do not overlook it again.
[b]However, the exist ...[text shortened]... nce of pornography addiction has been hotly contested by scientists and clinicians
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I was simply showing you that your 'cut and paste' from some random website does not amount to presenting facts, as I can present 'facts' which contradict them.
You said:
really, still pandering your opinions as some kind of factual justification, here are THE FACTS,
Whereas, in fact, you have no idea whether these are facts or not.
06 Oct 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFrom that website:
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20130801/is-pornography-harmful/#link0
“Pornography addiction is so secretive and shameful that you feel you can’t ask for help. You think you can beat it by yourself. But that is not true. You can beat it only with help. So I swallowed my pride and opened up to my wife. I also sought the help of a trusted friend. It was the hardest thing that I have ever had to do, but I got the help I needed.”—Yoshi.
Those naughty, naughty JWs :-)
Originally posted by Rank outsiderI also have no reason to dispute them either and as i have stated i have taken them upon trust that they are factual and have asked the originators to produce the source.
I wasn't debating whether or not porn addiction exists (I imagine it does).
I was simply showing you that your 'cut and paste' from some random website does not amount to presenting facts, as I can present 'facts' which contradict them.
You said:
really, still pandering your opinions as some kind of factual justification, here are THE FACTS,
Whereas, in fact, you have no idea whether these are facts or not.
You presented statistics and opinions, I merely presented statistics, that is the difference. Are you saying that there is not an estimated 420 million porn pages online? on what basis? are you saying that 13% of women and 20% of men dont use porn at work, on what basis? you see the statistics that i produced contained no opinion, they were merely statistics whereas the alleged contradictory reports that you produced went beyond that and were full of opinion from such reliable sources as, 'the wire'. So if you want to state that they are not factual then be my guest, personally i have no reason to dispute them.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderfirst of all the article did not say that masturbation makes you gay, what it stated was that if you nurture gay thoughts you may in turn commit a homosexual act, because 'desire when it becomes fertile gives way to sin'. If you cannot get that correct what hope is there for you?
Is this sourced from the same JW article that says masturbation makes you gay?
06 Oct 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOK I will delete the opinion.
I also have no reason to dispute them either and as i have stated i have taken them upon trust that they are factual and have asked the originators to produce the source.
You presented statistics and opinions, I merely presented statistics, that is the difference. Are you saying that there is not an estimated 420 million porn pages online? on wh ...[text shortened]... o state that they are not factual then be my guest, personally i have no reason to dispute them.
86 percent of respondents said porn can educate people, and 72 percent said it provides a harmless outlet for fantasies. Among those who reported using pornography, 80 percent said they felt "fine" about it.
Now, we are agreed, the facts are that most people don't think using porn is harmful.
Originally posted by Rank outsiderthese are statistics about opinions on pornography. They are not statistics about how pornography effects people with the exception of the latter, 80 percent say they feel fine. Well clearly there is a disparity with those who feel depressed, alienated and or attempt suicide.
OK I will delete the opinion.
86 percent of respondents said porn can educate people, and 72 percent said it provides a harmless outlet for fantasies. Among those who reported using pornography, 80 percent said they felt "fine" about it.
Now, we are agreed, the facts are that most people don't think using porn is harmful.