Originally posted by robbie carrobie"Slobbering...loaded question...flowery verbosity...loaded values...agenda...fangs...shrouded in darkness...cheap tricks...beguile the unwary...
Sorry i have no idea what you are slobbering about. compactness and exceptionalism? Sounds like a loaded question dressed up in unadulterated flowery verbosity. Perhaps a more pertinent question would be, do you ever ask honest questions, ones that don't contain loaded values or an agenda?
I see you as a kind of forum vampire sent here to suck ...[text shortened]... ople with your pronged fangs, shrouded in darkness and using cheap tricks to beguile the unwary.
Do you even read your posts back to yourself and get embarrassed?
Originally posted by galveston75The read (scripture) is not to blame. Most of the bibles have the same basic concepts. Even with others that have been altered, it is still basically the same principled message. (Love God) (Respect your neighbor)
Why? Does the bible teach that?
The problem with the 40,000+ is their interpretation. All the politics, examples: Name of God; day which to celibrate; Jesus - God or no; works - yes or no; and so forth.
09 Mar 17
Originally posted by PudgenikCorrect. There is ONE message from Christ. If you understand that message and follow it, you are IN, otherwise you are OUT.
The read (scripture) is not to blame. Most of the bibles have the same basic concepts. Even with others that have been altered, it is still basically the same principled message. (Love God) (Respect your neighbor)
The problem with the 40,000+ is their interpretation. All the politics, examples: Name of God; day which to celibrate; Jesus - God or no; works - yes or no; and so forth.
That same message is written in the conscience of mankind, and some follow it without knowing about or hearing Christ.
When people appear before Christ they will be stripped bare off the foolishness of religion and doctrine and knowledge, and all that they have DONE will be on trial. The good sheep who followed Christ's commandments will enter the Kingdom of God.
Originally posted by Pudgenikreally can you tell us why Jesus then made his fathers name manifest if it was of little importance?
The read (scripture) is not to blame. Most of the bibles have the same basic concepts. Even with others that have been altered, it is still basically the same principled message. (Love God) (Respect your neighbor)
The problem with the 40,000+ is their interpretation. All the politics, examples: Name of God; day which to celibrate; Jesus - God or no; works - yes or no; and so forth.
I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. . . . I have made your name known to them and will make it known.”—JOHN 17:6, 26.
If Jesus adopted the approach that you are advocating he would have simply shrugged his shoulders and said, meh what does it matter just love God and your neighbour.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhen Jesus taught, the message was to everyone, not little groups of people. At his time, men of His families line would not talk to women from another. Does this stop Jesus, no. He tells a woman to go get Him water.
really can you tell us why Jesus then made his fathers name manifest if it was of little importance?
I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. . . . I have made your name known to them and will make it known.”—JOHN 17:6, 26.
If Jesus adopted the approach that you are advocating he would have simply shrugged his shoulders and said, meh what does it matter just love God and your neighbour.
In the time of Jesus, they were taught not to work on the Sabbath. Yet He does. Shall i go on.
Again the bottom line of the bible is to Love God and Respect others - do you deny this?
09 Mar 17
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat you say Jesus should have said, he did actually say that, and so did the Apostles ..love God and your neighbour as yourself. All the law and the prophets hang on that last commandment.
really can you tell us why Jesus then made his fathers name manifest if it was of little importance?
I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. . . . I have made your name known to them and will make it known.”—JOHN 17:6, 26.
If Jesus adopted the approach that you are advocating he would have simply shrugged his shoulders and said, meh what does it matter just love God and your neighbour.
As for your contention that Jesus made his fathers name manifest, can you point out where Jesus did that?
Its like Jesus said that he preached and told everyone about the commandments. I can point out to you where he said that.
Jesus did not mince words and neither was he vague. Where did Jesus say that the name Jehovah must be used otherwise there will be dire consequences .. like the JWs believe?
09 Mar 17
Originally posted by Rajk999What, are you calling Jesus a liar? He said he did so he did or are you calling Jesus out on this?
What you say Jesus should have said, he did actually say that, and so did the Apostles ..love God and your neighbour as yourself. All the law and the prophets hang on that last commandment.
As for your contention that Jesus made his fathers name manifest, can you point out where Jesus did that?
Its like Jesus said that he preached and told everyone abo ...[text shortened]... the name Jehovah must be used otherwise there will be dire consequences .. like the JWs believe?
"I have made your name manifest to the men you gave me out of the world. . . . I have made your name known to them and will make it known.”—JOHN 17:6, 26. "
09 Mar 17
Originally posted by PudgenikYes your right on that. Good point. Humans on their own will have our own opinions on anything, that's the way Jehovah created us. That is not a bad thing but would you think that satan would also have an influence on all the opinions we've formulated in order to keep some confused or "always searching as the bible says but never finding the answers"?
The read (scripture) is not to blame. Most of the bibles have the same basic concepts. Even with others that have been altered, it is still basically the same principled message. (Love God) (Respect your neighbor)
The problem with the 40,000+ is their interpretation. All the politics, examples: Name of God; day which to celibrate; Jesus - God or no; works - yes or no; and so forth.