1. Subscriberroma45
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    01 Jan '18 08:21
    Well done to Metallica for winning the 2017 challenge through fair play and hard work.
    No victory speeches like last year's cringe fest
  2. santa cruz, ca.
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    01 Jan '18 16:25
    congratulations
    I hope this year is more competitive and friendly
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    01 Jan '18 16:43
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    congratulations
    I hope this year is more competitive and friendly
    Agreed.
    Renewal of the clan feature is a goal for 2018.
  4. Here
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    02 Jan '18 07:35
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    congratulations
    I hope this year is more competitive and friendly
    It will never be more competitive until they change how points are awarded in challenges
  5. santa cruz, ca.
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    02 Jan '18 14:12
    Originally posted by @padger
    It will never be more competitive until they change how points are awarded in challenges
    I agree
    Metallica will run away with the title again this year if shorty wants to put in the time
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    02 Jan '18 14:233 edits
    Originally posted by @lemondrop
    I agree
    Metallica will run away with the title again this year if shorty wants to put in the time
    Maybe we can start a new thread in site ideas.
    Russ may have a new appetite to revisit the clan feature.

    I don't entirely subscribe to the notion that if it ain't broken don't fix it.

    My first observation ?

    When I first joined Metallica in 2010, we beat out the 2nd place team by 3034 to 2872 points.
    Additionally, 4 other clans got more than 1000 points.
    In 2017, the winning clan won with 800 points.

    That's a red flag.
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    09 Jan '18 19:23
    I seem to be spending quite a bit of time in hospital just lately so am unable to contribute to this as much as I would like
    I in no way wish to belittle Metalicas achievement but when things are not right they are not right
    If a 5 man challenge finishes 6-4 and one team gets 10 and the other gets -10 this cannot be right
    If the same challenge were done man to man the result would be 6-4
    So how in the world is that fair ?
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    09 Jan '18 23:47
    Originally posted by @padger
    I seem to be spending quite a bit of time in hospital just lately so am unable to contribute to this as much as I would like
    I in no way wish to belittle Metalicas achievement but when things are not right they are not right
    If a 5 man challenge finishes 6-4 and one team gets 10 and the other gets -10 this cannot be right
    If the same challenge were done man to man the result would be 6-4
    So how in the world is that fair ?
    A challenge is either won, lost or drawn.
    There is no in between.

    Sports teams get a win or loss whether they win or lose 1-0 or 10-0.
    There is no half win or 3/4 win. Or loss.

    Why is this being debated to death ?
  9. SubscriberWycombe Al
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    09 Jan '18 23:52
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    A challenge is either won, lost or drawn.
    There is no in between.

    Sports teams get a win or loss whether they win or lose 1-0 or 10-0.
    There is no half win or 3/4 win. Or loss.

    Why is this being debated to death ?
    in this scenario winning team should get 10, losing team gets zero, deducting points for losing is odd
  10. Subscriberroma45
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    10 Jan '18 10:13
    Originally posted by @padger
    I seem to be spending quite a bit of time in hospital just lately so am unable to contribute to this as much as I would like
    I in no way wish to belittle Metalicas achievement but when things are not right they are not right
    If a 5 man challenge finishes 6-4 and one team gets 10 and the other gets -10 this cannot be right
    If the same challenge were done man to man the result would be 6-4
    So how in the world is that fair ?
    Why mention Metallica if you think the points awarded is not fair.
    Every clan plays under the same rules.
    Simply don't play if not happy
  11. Here
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    10 Jan '18 10:15
    Originally posted by @mghrn55
    A challenge is either won, lost or drawn.
    There is no in between.

    Sports teams get a win or loss whether they win or lose 1-0 or 10-0.
    There is no half win or 3/4 win. Or loss.

    Why is this being debated to death ?
    Because in my opinion the current way of awarding points is wrong
    If it was OK then 5 individual games would equal the same as a clan game of 5
    At the moment this is not the case
  12. Subscriberradioactive69
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    10 Jan '18 11:13
    Originally posted by @padger
    Because in my opinion the current way of awarding points is wrong
    If it was OK then 5 individual games would equal the same as a clan game of 5
    At the moment this is not the case
    Well that's your opinion which is only one of a few thousand.

    The system is what it is and if you don't like it you can either leave or shutup and get on with it. We've heard your opinion now (about a thousand times) so you don't have to keep repeating yourself like a parrot.

    Maybe you can find another site where they play by your rules. if so.....goodbye !!!
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    10 Jan '18 12:13
    Originally posted by @radioactive69
    Well that's your opinion which is only one of a few thousand.

    The system is what it is and if you don't like it you can either leave or shutup and get on with it. We've heard your opinion now (about a thousand times) so you don't have to keep repeating yourself like a parrot.

    Maybe you can find another site where they play by your rules. if so.....goodbye !!!
    Exactly !!
    This debate has gotten old and tiresome a long time ago.
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    10 Jan '18 13:06
    Originally posted by @wycombe-al
    in this scenario winning team should get 10, losing team gets zero, deducting points for losing is odd
    That was the gross point system which was replaced by the current setup.
  15. Here
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    12 Jan '18 17:04
    I would like to congratulate Metallica on using the present system to finish top last year
    I would add that the only other clan leader who used the present system to his own ends was banned
    Perhaps a way could be found where all challenges are played out and not dropped
    The current system doesn't allow for this
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