Easy Riders statistics from 3 clans update

Originally posted by Wycombe Al
let me know also who the sandbaggers are hiding in my clan

Actually Al, I have no idea if you have sanbaggers. i will not say one bad word about anyone in your clan. Not to mention almost everyone seems to be a sandbagger anyway. Nothing I get worked up over. If the leaders do the research, and with Russ placing that 200 point max in difference, you can work around that. I did not mean to imply your clan had any sandbaggers. I apologize if that is how it came out.

But when I have a little time and feeling better for a day, I will get the names of the clans that have given your clan points over and over as well. But I need time for this. I cant do this over night.

But as Much as i would like to, I have to stop posting in here for a bit. But I will get the names of the clans soon as I am able. I promise. Also keep in mind, I thought this was normal practice as so many do it, but only made a big deal when the changing of the guard starts to happen. Just my humble opinion. But I wont argue or fight with anyone. And I will not name call.

I love some of the idea's that everyone had in the thread to help the clan system. 🙂

Originally posted by lemondrop
the problem in identifying sandbaggers is that you have to know why their rating is considerably below their actual plying strength
if ratings drop because of personal problems, family, health, etc.then you could not say they were sandbagging
if they purposely manipulate their ratings to achieve an advantage
then sandbagging could be an issue
it's highly subjective

That is EXACTLY correct. Startreader who still after two years still enjoys talking about me, even though I have not said one word to this person, insisted that I was sandbagging. What bothers me, is this person actually knows the truth but insists on trouble instead of the truth.

I have health issues, only a select few know what it is. But that is why my rating goes up and down. It also is the reason I resign, or don't get to move, or just quit tournaments. I start every game with the intention of finishing. I will always start when I think I can finish. But if I cant, then that is the way it is. People thinking I am a sandbagger, I find that funny because I am horrible at chess. lol lol 1200 at best.

But your assessment was spot on for that Lemondrop. Thank you. 🙂

Originally posted by VESPIN
Actually Al, I have no idea if you have sanbaggers. i will not say one bad word about anyone in your clan. Not to mention almost everyone seems to be a sandbagger anyway. Nothing I get worked up over. If the leaders do the research, and with Russ placing that 200 point max in difference, you can work around that. I did not mean to imply your clan had any sa ...[text shortened]... call.

I love some of the idea's that everyone had in the thread to help the clan system. 🙂

No probs

As Lemondrop points out there are a lot of things to take into account as to if someone is sandbagging and also what rating swing do you take as a judge of sandbagging and over what period, sandbagging happens for sure but not an easy one to call

Originally posted by Startreader
Alternatively, up to the point where you posted that, Lemon, only 18 members had actually seen the post.

Many people do actually have a life, you know!

the post has been up for several days
I think more than 18 have seen it

Originally posted by VESPIN
That is EXACTLY correct. Startreader who still after two years still enjoys talking about me, even though I have not said one word to this person, insisted that I was sandbagging. What bothers me, is this person actually knows the truth but insists on trouble instead of the truth.

I have health issues, only a select few know what it is. But that is why m ...[text shortened]... ess. lol lol 1200 at best.

But your assessment was spot on for that Lemondrop. Thank you. 🙂

vespin,
I think here is the difficulty people have with you. First you are close to death then you are on the mend again, then you are back to you are sick again. Perhaps if you explained your situation a little more, people may be more understanding of your situation.

Of course there are those who will still doubt you. At least you could try and set the record straight on what is going on. I know health issues can be hell!!!

Regards,
-VR

Vespin and Robbie are basically the brown shirts, we all know who is behind this , same person who has had a grudge for last 5 years

Originally posted by Very Rusty
vespin,
I think here is the difficulty people have with you. First you are close to death then you are on the mend again, then you are back to you are sick again. Perhaps if you explained your situation a little more, people may be more understanding of your situation.

Of course there are those who will still doubt you. At least you could ...[text shortened]... et the record straight on what is going on. I know health issues can be hell!!!

Regards,
-VR

If you are in that bad a state and know you have operations coming up why start games you know you can't complete , load of old bollocks

Originally posted by Wycombe Al
If you are in that bad a state and know you have operations coming up why start games you know you can't complete , load of old bollocks

Al,
Why are you jumping to assumptions? I said I know that health issues can be hell. Did I say I have operations coming up?....I never thought I would hear such silly talk from you. I know what I've been through, that is why I know IF he/she actually has health issues what a HELL it can be.

Regards,
-VR

Originally posted by Very Rusty
Al,
Why are you jumping to assumptions? I said I know that health issues can be hell. Did I say I have operations coming up?....I never thought I would hear such silly talk from you. I know what I've been through, that is why I know IF he/she actually has health issues what a HELL it can be.

Regards,
-VR

was referring to Vespin

Originally posted by VESPIN
That is EXACTLY correct. Startreader who still after two years still enjoys talking about me, even though I have not said one word to this person, insisted that I was sandbagging. What bothers me, is this person actually knows the truth but insists on trouble instead of the truth.

I have health issues, only a select few know what it is. But that is why m ...[text shortened]... ess. lol lol 1200 at best.

But your assessment was spot on for that Lemondrop. Thank you. 🙂

Hmmm. I think you'll find the word was cheating rather than sandbagging - University of Chess For Fun comes to mind - but don't let facts get in your way.

On the one hand, we have pleas for sympathy for illness from someone who announced many posts back that he wasn't allowed to post in this forum and that his post to Roma a third of the way down page 4 would be his last. On the other hand there's all the history. Including the threats of actual physical violence to one ex member of your clan.

By the way, what's this two years nonsense? It was August 2015 that your antics were exposed and clans closed and suspended. Nobody here is likely to forget that!

Originally posted by Very Rusty
Al,
Why are you jumping to assumptions? I said I know that health issues can be hell. Did I say I have operations coming up?....I never thought I would hear such silly talk from you. I know what I've been through, that is why I know IF he/she actually has health issues what a HELL it can be.

Regards,
-VR

Your lobotomy seems to have been a great success Crusty old bean.

Originally posted by Wycombe Al
was referring to Vespin

Ok Al,
I completely missed it, my apology.

-VR

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Your lobotomy seems to have been a great success Crusty old bean.

robbie,
Don't you have clan challenges you should be fixing?

-VR

Originally posted by Very Rusty
robbie,
Don't you have clan challenges you should be fixing?

-VR

See! what a great success its has been.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
See! what a great success its has been.

yes
very successful