Lemondrop's clan roster increased but ..

@caesar-salad said
Did you have a clear view of the sky tonight?

Whoosh.

@mghrn55

It appears that ‘the usual suspects’ are gaming the system again. I support the proposal to de-couple clan ratings from tournament ratings.

I am less sure about the effectiveness of punitive measures. Punitive measures were implemented last time this sort of thing happened, and we have had only a temporary respite. Even a permanent site ban would not prevent the miscreants from returning under different names/accounts and gaming the system again.

I support continuous monitoring of suspicious activity, possibly with some sort of moderation or adjudication and authority to rectify obvious manipulation of the system.

@moonbus said
@mghrn55

It appears that ‘the usual suspects’ are gaming the system again. I support the proposal to de-couple clan ratings from tournament ratings.

I am less sure about the effectiveness of punitive measures. Punitive measures were implemented last time this sort of thing happened, and we have had only a temporary respite. Even a permanent site ban would not prevent th ...[text shortened]... some sort of moderation or adjudication and authority to rectify obvious manipulation of the system.

Point taken.
But there has to be some sort of punitive measure.
If not a player ban, then at least a penalty at the clan level.
Perhaps a clan suspension.
Or even better, some sort of recalculation that adjusts a clan's point total by removing the results that involve a clan player whose activities are deemed to be damaging to the clan feature.

In fact this was done before. In 2016 !!
The player involved if I recall correctly was Mctayto !!

I'm sure Russ still has his software routine handy at his fingertips. 🙂

Perhaps this is an issue that more Clan Leaders should involve themselves with.

-VR

@very-rusty said
Perhaps this is an issue that more Clan Leaders should involve themselves with.

-VR

Every player in that sad clan should be booted..

@very-rusty said
Perhaps this is an issue that more Clan Leaders should involve themselves with.

-VR

I agree -- but I also wonder why more of them haven't yet, especially the page-one Clan Leaders.

@roma45 said
Every player in that sad clan should be booted..

Seems unfair to boot Fagarasi and Padger and the others who haven't even played for Clan X.

What would be the rationale? Dissent? Tweaking noses? Guilt by association?

That would be incongruous, if the quest really is for greater fairness in the clan system.

@caesar-salad said
Seems unfair to boot Fagarasi and Padger and the others who haven't even played for Clan X.

What would be the rationale? Dissent? Tweaking noses? Guilt by association?

That would be incongruous, if the quest really is for greater fairness in the clan system.

No.

Conspiracy.

@caesar-salad said
Seems unfair to boot Fagarasi and Padger and the others who haven't even played for Clan X.

What would be the rationale? Dissent? Tweaking noses? Guilt by association?

That would be incongruous, if the quest really is for greater fairness in the clan system.

Fly with the crows
Get shot with the crows.
Greater fairness? .players like mcgayto do not know the meaning of fair play.
Everyone in there should never be allowed to play again.

@caesar-salad said
@mghrn55

Thank goodness you are here to question Russ's decisions and advise him how to run the site. Please carry on.

Russ encourages feedback, which strikes me as prudent and wise. He has a forum for site ideas, and even the forums themselves indicate a high level of openness.

@paul-leggett said
Russ encourages feedback, which strikes me as prudent and wise. He has a forum for site ideas, and even the forums themselves indicate a high level of openness.

You come across as thoughtful and level headed.
I appreciate and welcome your participation in these forums.
I presume you read in site ideas and announcements ?

@mghrn55 said
You come across as thoughtful and level headed.
I appreciate and welcome your participation in these forums.
I presume you read in site ideas and announcements ?

I don't check site ideas or announcements as often as I should. I mostly stick to the chess forum, but I check the other forums every now and then as the mood strikes.

@paul-leggett said
I don't check site ideas or announcements as often as I should. I mostly stick to the chess forum, but I check the other forums every now and then as the mood strikes.

I got 2 thumbs down for corresponding with you.
I guess I'm being too nice. 😆

@divegeester said
Whoosh.

They're called meteors. 😉