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  1. 29 Aug '11 22:56
    A new poll by CNN and ORC International finds that 27 percent of Democrats would like to see their party nominate a candidate other than Barack Obama for president in 2012.

    So who would the democratic party want to see run in a primary against Obama?
  2. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    29 Aug '11 22:58
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    A new poll by CNN and ORC International finds that 27 percent of Democrats would like to see their party nominate a candidate other than Barack Obama for president in 2012.

    So who would the democratic party want to see run in a primary against Obama?
    Russ Feingold?
  3. 29 Aug '11 23:01
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    A new poll by CNN and ORC International finds that 27 percent of Democrats would like to see their party nominate a candidate other than Barack Obama for president in 2012.

    So who would the democratic party want to see run in a primary against Obama?
    Hillary Clinton, but she lost last time.
  4. 29 Aug '11 23:01
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    A new poll by CNN and ORC International finds that 27 percent of Democrats would like to see their party nominate a candidate other than Barack Obama for president in 2012.

    So who would the democratic party want to see run in a primary against Obama?
    I thought you didn't care about polls, what changed?
  5. Subscriber Sleepyguy
    Reepy Rastardly Guy
    29 Aug '11 23:05 / 1 edit
    Actually the way the Dems have been swooning over Huntsman lately maybe he should switch parties and steal Obama's thunder.
  6. 29 Aug '11 23:12
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Actually the way the Dems have been swooning over Huntsman lately maybe he should switch parties and steal Obama's thunder.
    Democrats always love the Republicans they know they can beat.
  7. 29 Aug '11 23:42 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by generalissimo
    I thought you didn't care about polls, what changed?
    Irene has petered out, and I'm bored? Not to mention I would love to see Hillary take a good hard swing at O,, she couild beat him now with his pathetic record. Now she has something to strike at him, and there are lots of arrows in her quiver,, none in O's
  8. 29 Aug '11 23:44
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Actually the way the Dems have been swooning over Huntsman lately maybe he should switch parties and steal Obama's thunder.
    Not a bad idea,, say Huntsman is mormon isn't he?
  9. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    29 Aug '11 23:45
    Overreacting to hyper-conservatism with a Democratic Party-spawned equivalent to the TEA Party isn't going to do anybody any good.
  10. 29 Aug '11 23:49
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    Overreacting to hyper-conservatism with a Democratic Party-spawned equivalent to the TEA Party isn't going to do anybody any good.
    Oh, why say you that?
  11. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    29 Aug '11 23:49
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Democrats always love the Republicans they know they can beat.
    Not necessarily.

    http://www.abc4.com/content/news/top%20stories/story/Obamas-campaign-manager-fears-Jon-Huntsman-the/aaMghWe9q0qqXjkPpGB4NA.cspx

    While no republican presidential candidate yet makes Obama's team "shake in [their] shoes...," President Obama’s campaign manager, David Plouffe, tells the U.S. News and World Report that Governor Jon Huntsman makes him, a "wee bit queasy...I think he's really out there speaking a lot of truth about the direction of the party."

    Furthermore, Huntsman isn't exactly a "moderate" as much as he is a diplomat. See his positions on the 2nd amendment and on abortion if you're curious:

    http://www.amconmag.com/blog/jon-huntsman-the-no-drama-conservative/
  12. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    29 Aug '11 23:55
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    Oh, why say you that?
    Why do you think? If a minority of Democrats suddenly form, say, a "TEM Party" (Tax Everyone More Party) in response to the TEA Party, then the TEM Party would split votes away from the Democrats just as much as have TEA Party candidates beaten mainstream GOP candidates in primaries.
  13. 29 Aug '11 23:57
    Originally posted by Hugh Glass
    A new poll by CNN and ORC International finds that 27 percent of Democrats would like to see their party nominate a candidate other than Barack Obama for president in 2012.

    So who would the democratic party want to see run in a primary against Obama?
    That's mostly liberals, and there is a draft Sanders movement in motion. It won't go anywhere however. Unfortunately.
  14. 29 Aug '11 23:59
    Originally posted by Sleepyguy
    Actually the way the Dems have been swooning over Huntsman lately maybe he should switch parties and steal Obama's thunder.
    Except that he raised his hand to say that he would oppose any deficit reduction plan which involved even a tiny tax raise even if it meant huge additional program cuts.

    Huntsman is a moderate by today's standards. His politics are about identical to Reagan's. Remember when he was considered conservative?
  15. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    30 Aug '11 00:07
    Originally posted by Kunsoo
    Except that he raised his hand to say that he would oppose any deficit reduction plan which involved even a tiny tax raise even if it meant huge additional program cuts.

    Huntsman is a moderate by today's standards. His politics are about identical to Reagan's. Remember when he was considered conservative?
    He's actually backtracked from that debate appearance a little bit. Not much, but a little bit. I agree, though, that it was a pretty appalling glimpse into the reality of litmi tests present in the one-and-only GOP.