@Metal-Brain
OMG, SO obvious, why didn't we see that before?
Could it be you are just full of shyte as usual? You must thrive on negative attention.
You wouldn't be leading up to your point, that Trump was a one termer and did no war so he must be good and all those two timers are bad. Got it.
@sonhouse saidCarter and Ford too.
@Metal-Brain
OMG, SO obvious, why didn't we see that before?
Could it be you are just full of shyte as usual? You must thrive on negative attention.
You wouldn't be leading up to your point, that Trump was a one termer and did no war so he must be good and all those two timers are bad. Got it.
How far back do you have to go to find one exception?
Face it. Only imperialist presidents get second terms since the Spanish American war except those that were assassinated. McKinley would have gotten a second term if he had not been assassinated for being an imperialist. He was a puppet of the Rockefellers and JP Morgan.
@metal-brain saidGeorge H.W. Bush had the Gulf war and was not re-elected, so it is no surefire way to gain re-election.
I have noticed that presidents in recent history only get a second term if they invade other countries or escalate wars that have already been started by a previous presidents.
Are there any exceptions? If so, how many?
@metal-brain saidPresident Lyndon Johnson caught so much flak for escalating the Vietnam war that he decided not to run for reelection in 1968.
I have noticed that presidents in recent history only get a second term if they invade other countries or escalate wars that have already been started by a previous presidents.
Are there any exceptions? If so, how many?
But with there having been only about a dozen presidents in "recent history," the sample size is so small that I doubt anything significant could be gleaned from whatever pattern you think you discern. There are just too many variables.
In a way, this thread is something of a textbook insight into the workings of the conspiratorial mind, which seeks patterns in everything right down to the grill marks on a hamburger.
@ponderable saidGenau richtig.
George H.W. Bush had the Gulf war and was not re-elected, so it is no surefire way to gain re-election.
@ponderable saidIn fact H.W. Bush is an example of those other variables in play that I mentioned above. He was fantastically popular in polls (in the US anyway) when he went to war with Iraq, but voters did not forgive him for reneging on his "Read my lips: no new taxes" promise in 1988.
George H.W. Bush had the Gulf war and was not re-elected, so it is no surefire way to gain re-election.
@ponderable saidThat wasn't an invasion though, like Libya or Iraq in the 2000s. Bush Sr. was defending Kuwait from an Iraqi invasion.
George H.W. Bush had the Gulf war and was not re-elected, so it is no surefire way to gain re-election.
@soothfast saidOh, it was definitely a war, but not an invasion.
Of course, the US has not bothered to issue a formal declaration of war since the heyday of Hitler.
@ponderable saidBecause he didn't overthrow Iraq and pulled out leaving the regime in power.
George H.W. Bush had the Gulf war and was not re-elected, so it is no surefire way to gain re-election.
He did not follow through with turning Iraq into a puppet state of the USA. His son did though and got a second term.
@vivify saidKuwait was slant drilling under Iraq stealing Iraqi oil. The Bush administration led Saddam to believe the USA would not get involved if he handled it on his own. Since the USA was allies with Iraq at the time Saddam did not have reason to doubt that.
That wasn't an invasion though, like Libya or Iraq in the 2000s. Bush Sr. was defending Kuwait from an Iraqi invasion.
All of that is easily verified if you try. Watch "Hidden Wars of Desert Storm".
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0283384/
@soothfast saidLyndon Johnson was not elected. The only reason he became president is because he conspired to have JFK assassinated. JFK hated Lyndon Johnson and vice versa. They were in a secret war behind the scenes. Bobby Baker was the scandal that was dragging Johnson down and JFK was holding all the important cards.
President Lyndon Johnson caught so much flak for escalating the Vietnam war that he decided not to run for reelection in 1968.
But with there having been only about a dozen presidents in "recent history," the sample size is so small that I doubt anything significant could be gleaned from whatever pattern you think you discern. There are just too many variables.
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Johnson's only chance at becoming POTUS was the assassination of JFK. Johnson was a huge creep. He was even very childish at times. He would push people like a schoolyard bully. Johnson’s influence was also limited as vice president, as Kennedy’s advisers (especially his brother and attorney general Robert Kennedy) made sure to keep him on the sidelines. During the Cuban Missile Crisis, for example, Johnson was a member of the group convened to advise the president, but was excluded from the meeting at which the final decision about the American response was made.
Vietnam was also a huge failure for the USA. The first war the USA ever lost.
@metal-brain saidLBJ finished JFK's term and then went on to get elected to 1 term of his own.
Lyndon Johnson was not elected. The only reason he became president is because he conspired to have JFK assassinated. JFK hated Lyndon Johnson and vice versa. They were in a secret war behind the scenes. Bobby Baker was the scandal that was dragging Johnson down and JFK was holding all the important cards.
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Vietnam was also a huge failure for the USA. The first war the USA ever lost.
As for childish behavior among presidents, Trump has set the gold standard for as long as Sol remains a main sequence star.
@metal-brain saidHey, moron, Johnson won the 1964 election 486 to 52.
Lyndon Johnson was not elected.
It was a landslide.