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  1. 30 Aug '10 06:46
    http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/two-illegal-aliens-17-deportations-between-them

    Dave Gibson

    Two illegal aliens...17 deportations between them

    * August 29th, 2010 7:29 pm ET

    On August 17, Mexican national Victor Manuel Gonzalez Martinez, 28, was indicted by a federal grand jury in Pittsburgh for criminally violating federal immigration law.

    He will be deported after his prison sentence, that is, if he receives one. Although for re-entering the U.S. illegally, the law provides for a maximum total sentence of two years in prison, that penalty is rarely imposed.

    Of course, deportations are rather meaningless to Martinez, as he has already been deported eight times between 2004-2006, only to quickly re-enter. The illegal alien was actually deported three times over a six-day period in May 2004.

    Martinez’ latest arrest came on June 29, 2010.

    This case is reminiscent of another one involving an illegal alien captured in Washington who had been deported nine times, with his last arrest coming a few months ago for rape.

    On the evening of May 16, an Edmonds police officer responding to a woman’s cries for help, caught Mexican national Jose Lopez Madrigal, 46, on top of a woman, raping her. Madrigal had forced the woman into the bushes behind a Safeway.

    According to the arrest affidavit, Madrigal approached the woman, offering her $35 for sex. When she said no, the illegal alien dragged her behind the store and raped her.

    The 28-year-old rape victim was taken to a local hospital for treatment.

    Madrigal reportedly told police: “Sometimes we have control in our brains, but we make mistakes.”

    Because the illegal alien has a total of 35 different aliases, police had to rely on fingerprint records to identify Madrigal.

    Madrigal has a lengthy criminal record in this country, dating back to 1989, when he was convicted of theft with a firearm in California. After that, he was deported twice, before his next arrest on this side of the border.

    In 1999, he was arrested for drug distribution in San Diego and San Francisco. He was deported three times that year alone, between April and August.

    In 2000, Madrigal was arrested again for drug distribution in Stockton, Ca.

    In 2002, he pleaded guilty to sexual assault in Denver, and deported again.

    In 2003, he was deported three more times.

    These two cases are a clear demonstration of just how meaningless deportations are with an unprotected border.
  2. 30 Aug '10 06:48
    http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/dave-gibson

    Two illegal aliens...17 deportations between them

    Now they are "U.S. bound economic migrants!"

    Janet Napolitano and Obama take note...Texas teenager kidnapped at random, taken to Mexico

    Illegal alien responsible for fatal hit-and-run never deported, arrested twice more

    Dallas elementary school released child to stranger...illegal alien

    Obamnesty...it's here, feds now dismissing thousands of deportation cases

    Mexican national arrested for raping woman in North Carolina

    Owner of egg farms in egg salmonella case has history of hiring and abusing illegal aliens

    Illegal alien teen pleads no contest to raping 64-year-old woman

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  3. 30 Aug '10 06:48
    10 pages of headlines?!?!
  4. 30 Aug '10 06:49
    e.g.:

    New Mexico, Utah and Washington becoming havens for illegal aliens

    In the wake of Arizona’s passage of SB1070, illegal aliens have been flocking to the states of New Mexico, Utah and Washington, as evidenced by the number of driver’s licenses being issued to them in each of those states. Incredibly, none of three states require proof of citizenship to obtain a license. New Mexico has gone even further and has a law banning DMV clerks from asking an applicant if they are in the country legally. Brian Zimmer, president of the Coalition for a Secure Driver’s License, told the Associated Press: “Washington state and New Mexico have been...
  5. 30 Aug '10 07:18 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by zeeblebot


    These two cases are a clear demonstration of just how meaningless deportations are with an unprotected border.
    Or perhaps how meaningless trying to protect such a border is.
  6. 30 Aug '10 07:31
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Or perhaps how meaningless trying to protect such a border is.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Border_Patrol#Ineffective

    Ineffective

    In 2006, a documentary called The Illegal Immigration Invasion[31] linked the scale of illegal immigration into the United States chiefly to the ineffectiveness of the Border Patrol. The film claimed that this is due to the lack of judicial powers of the Border Patrol and the effective hamstringing of the agency by the federal government. The film interviews people that deal with illegal immigration on a daily basis, as well as local citizens living in the border areas.
  7. 30 Aug '10 07:32
    we're paying for it. we're just not getting it.
  8. 30 Aug '10 12:17
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    we're paying for it. we're just not getting it.
    Perhaps if instead of deporting wallahs like that immediately the authorities were to sentence them to a spell of penal servitude making bricks on a bread and water diet before deportation they may decide to stay deported?
  9. 30 Aug '10 12:38 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by KazetNagorra
    Or perhaps how meaningless trying to protect such a border is.
    So which is harder to protect? Is it the US/Mexican border or the border that the former USSR built known as the iron curtain?

    Obviously, the Soviets did a fine job protecting their border only because they were motivated to do so. In fact, I predict that if the US ever becomes like the Soviet Union and they need to erect walls to keep its citizens inside, up goes the wall to build and the impossible border to defend.
  10. 30 Aug '10 12:41
    Originally posted by zeeblebot
    [b]http://www.examiner.com/immigration-reform-in-national/two-illegal-aliens-17-deportations-between-them
    Is this some sort of new law? What, 17 deportations are your out? Where is their humanity? It should be at least 200 deportations and your out.
  11. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    30 Aug '10 13:05 / 1 edit
    Is it true that the number of [different] illegal immigrants being apprehended and deported has increased under the current White House regime and that the number of people crossing into the U.S. illegally has decreased? Anyone got the actual figures for this?
  12. 30 Aug '10 14:36
    Originally posted by Sartor Resartus
    Perhaps if instead of deporting wallahs like that immediately the authorities were to sentence them to a spell of penal servitude making bricks on a bread and water diet before deportation they may decide to stay deported?
    good idea. penal servitude in a tent city; no use wasting the bricks on them.
  13. 30 Aug '10 14:40
    Originally posted by FMF
    Is it true that the number of [different] illegal immigrants being apprehended and deported has increased under the current White House regime and that the number of people crossing into the U.S. illegally has decreased? Anyone got the actual figures for this?
    http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=6147

    Elvira Arellano: Obama’s Illegal Immigration Stance, Then and Now
    By Tara Lynn Thompson

    Elvira Arellano came to the US illegally. Twice. And in 2006, Obama’s illegal immigration stance had no problems sending her back home.

    She worked at Chicago’s O’Hare airport cleaning planes. That was during her second illegal tenure. First, she came in 1997. Was captured. Deported. Then she came again, working under an illegal Social Security number and getting caught and convicted for document fraud after 9/11.

    When she was ordered to be deported, Arellano claimed sanctuary in the Adalberto United Methodist Church in Chicago for a year. She said it was to remain with her 8-year-old son Saul, though he eventually went to Mexico with her.

    During her 15-minutes of fame, Arellano sought help to remain in the US from one of the Illinois Senators. Obama, a Senator at the time, wasn’t interested.

    “We live in a country of laws,” Obama said. “We don’t do things that, sort of, based on, you know, one person’s situation no matter how painful.”

    That was then. This is now.

    The Obama administration has now established a team of top government lawyers to find a way around, through, or over Arizona’s illegal immigration law, even considering federal lawsuits.
  14. 30 Aug '10 14:41
    Originally posted by FMF
    Is it true that the number of [different] illegal immigrants being apprehended and deported has increased under the current White House regime and that the number of people crossing into the U.S. illegally has decreased? Anyone got the actual figures for this?
    http://www.rightsidenews.com/200911177337/us/homeland-security/us-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants-by-early-2010.html

    U.S. Citizenship For Illegal Immigrants By Early 2010

    Tuesday, 17 November 2009 06:37 JudicialWatch.org

    In a few months President Obama will push legislation to legalize the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants, according to Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who assures her boss's jam-packed agenda won't delay his campaign promise to the influential La Raza movement.

    By early next year the country's immigration system will be overhauled, guarantees Napolitano, who is the president's point person on the matter. The former Arizona governor dispelled suggestions that the administration is too busy with health care, Middle Eastern wars and other pressing issues to postpone enacting immigration legislation.

    Addressing a liberal policy group in Washington D.C., Napolitano said that legalizing illegal immigrants will enhance national security and protect American workers from unfair competition created by lower-paid, easily exploited illegal immigrants. "Let me emphasize this: we will never have fully effective law enforcement or national security as long as so many millions remain in the shadows," Napolitano affirmed.

    border_deesUnder the plan Congress will provide temporary worker programs and a path to citizenship for an estimated 12 million people currently living in the U.S. illegally. In return, the illegal aliens must take a number of steps such as pay back taxes and fines, learn English and pass criminal background checks.

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  15. 30 Aug '10 14:44
    Originally posted by FMF
    Is it true that the number of [different] illegal immigrants being apprehended and deported has increased under the current White House regime and that the number of people crossing into the U.S. illegally has decreased? Anyone got the actual figures for this?
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/mar/18/obama-endorses-immigration-blueprint/

    Obama backs plan to legalize illegals

    By Stephen Dinan

    5:52 p.m., Thursday, March 18, 2010

    President Obama gave a thumbs up Thursday to the outline of a plan to legalize illegal immigrants and create a flow of low-skilled foreign workers for the future, saying the immigration bill being worked on by a Republican and a Democrat is "promising."

    In their broad blueprint, Sens. Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, and Lindsey Graham, South Carolina Republican, call for illegal immigrants to be put on a path to citizenship, offer green cards to keep high-skilled foreign university graduates and would create a temporary program for low-skilled workers, with some also getting the chance to become citizens.

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