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your tax dollars at work! 😵

http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223000163

School Allegedly Spied On Kids In Their Homes

Web cams in laptops provided a school district with compromising photos of minors in their homes, a lawsuit claims.

By Thomas Claburn
InformationWeek
February 18, 2010 03:35 PM

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The complaint claims that Lindy Matsko, assistant principal of Harriton High School, informed the Robbins' son that the School District believed he "was engaged in improper behavior in his home, and cited as evidence a photograph from the Web cam embedded in [his] personal laptop issued by the School District."

The complaint further states that Michael Robbins subsequently verified that the School District had the ability to remotely capture images using the Web cam at any time, without the knowledge or consent of the user.

"As the laptops at issue were routinely used by students and family members while at home, it is believed and therefore averred that many of the images captured and intercepted may consist of images of minors and their parents or friends in compromising or embarrassing positions, including, but not limited to, various stages or dress or undress," the complaint says.

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Originally posted by twhitehead
Interesting how you shoot your original post in the foot.

You start a thread asking why we don't go after 'lofty goals' then suggest it is all due to our selfish nature etc.

Now you point out that even as a whole we don't really have much motivation for going into space.

I think that the writers of science fiction would like to think that there a ...[text shortened]... is not particularly beneficial to mankind and there are better things to do with our money.
What I am saying is that there may be long term benefits. However, people are too short sided and petty to invest in them. Instead it seems that people are only interested in short term gain. If you don't believe me, just look at how the US is mortgaging the future of its citizens with stimulus packages etc, all in favor of the here and now benefits.

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Originally posted by whodey
What I am saying is that there may be long term benefits. However, people are too short sided and petty to invest in them. Instead it seems that people are only interested in short term gain. If you don't believe me, just look at how the US is mortgaging the future of its citizens with stimulus packages etc, all in favor of the here and now benefits.
So what do you propose should be done about this?

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Originally posted by Melanerpes
So what do you propose should be done about this?
I had not anticipated on addressing a solution, rather, my only intention was to shed light on these facts. I think that is the first step. Having said that, I will give it a try anyway.

So how does one address the "ugly" side of our nature which is drenched in conflict and self service? Being a person of faith I could suggest a few things. Those of faith recognize that the "good" we do for others is a long term investment no matter the cost to our person. My faith has taught me that temperal gain and pleasures are dung in comparison to the long term benefits of my service to my God and my fellow man. Of course, a conversation like this might get me banished to the spirituality forum. Eeeeks!!

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Originally posted by whodey
I predict future advances be built around controlling our fellow man. This means greater advances in terms of monitoring the populace. Specifically I look for advances in monitoring our spending and money making endevours. In addition, I think the world will look very Orwellian much like the UK is today. There is a camera every where except up you arse.
Be it for the good or bad, Orwell was a prophet. I see more and more of his '1984' world everyday.






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Originally posted by whodey
I had not anticipated on addressing a solution, rather, my only intention was to shed light on these facts. I think that is the first step. Having said that, I will give it a try anyway.

So how does one address the "ugly" side of our nature which is drenched in conflict and self service? Being a person of faith I could suggest a few things. Those of fa ...[text shortened]... course, a conversation like this might get me banished to the spirituality forum. Eeeeks!!
In medieval times religion was much more prominent. Odd that they never sent those Knights Templar to space, eh?

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Originally posted by whodey
I had not anticipated on addressing a solution, rather, my only intention was to shed light on these facts. I think that is the first step. Having said that, I will give it a try anyway.

So how does one address the "ugly" side of our nature which is drenched in conflict and self service? Being a person of faith I could suggest a few things. Those of fa course, a conversation like this might get me banished to the spirituality forum. Eeeeks!!
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200912/rosin-prosperity-gospel

this article appeared in The Atlantic last December.

It argues that a version of Christianity is becoming increasingly popular that claims that "Christian faith" is a mainly a way to becoming rich in the here and now - with an emphasis on the here and now part.

It goes on to argue that the housing bubble was pumped up by beliefs like "God wants you own that huge house on the hill - so who cares if you can't afford the huge mortgage obligations you're taking on -- if you have faith, God will provide"

While the article is probably overplaying its hand with this, the underlying point is probably true -- that for many people, their faith has nothing to do with long-term outlooks or the short-term sacrifices that such an outlook may require. Instead, it's all about "c'mon - I got faith!! - so I deserve money - NOW".

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Originally posted by Melanerpes
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200912/rosin-prosperity-gospel

this article appeared in The Atlantic last December.

It argues that a version of Christianity is becoming increasingly popular that claims that "Christian faith" is a mainly a way to becoming rich in the here and now - with an emphasis on the here and now part.

It goes on to argue that y require. Instead, it's all about "c'mon - I got faith!! - so I deserve money - NOW".
As has pointed out simply saying "religion" is not what I am discussing here. MY faith is not about me, it is about my relationship with my Maker. I in no way am suggesting that "religion" is a fix all and is often turned into self service in itself. What I am saying is that paying attention to our relationship with our Maker is the fix all. As Chirst taught through his word and his actions, we must first learn to serve in order to lead.

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Originally posted by whodey
As has pointed out simply saying "religion" is not what I am discussing here. MY faith is not about me, it is about my relationship with my Maker. I in no way am suggesting that "religion" is a fix all and is often turned into self service in itself. What I am saying is that paying attention to our relationship with our Maker is the fix all. As Chirst taught through his word and his actions, we must first learn to serve in order to lead.
I agree. Our culture has become more and more about inviduals thinking only about their own self-interest. The article in the Atlantic simply shows that this attitude has infiltrated the one realm (religion and faith) that should be resisting this tendency rather than cheering it on. I am not saying that all religion is like this, but the trend is troubling.

As I've said before - the attitude is clearly on display when military recruitment focuses on how the Army can make YOU strong - rather than on how you can make the ARMY strong. It used to be about "how Uncle Sam wants you". That's how they used to recruit people. Now they have to tell everyone "how much Uncle Sam wants to GIVE you (preferably for free)"

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
In medieval times religion was much more prominent. Odd that they never sent those Knights Templar to space, eh?
what does one thing have to do with another?