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30% of Pfizer vaccine was placebo

30% of Pfizer vaccine was placebo

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Is that ethical?

https://rumble.com/v2wx3w0-bombshell-one-in-three-pfizer-vaccine-shots-may-have-been-a-placebo.html


@metal-brain said
Is that ethical?

https://rumble.com/v2wx3w0-bombshell-one-in-three-pfizer-vaccine-shots-may-have-been-a-placebo.html
"bombshell" and "may have been" are never supposed to be in the same sentence.

except maybe "It's not a bombshell, we don't know for sure, we're gossiping like little girls that X may have been"


@zahlanzi said
"bombshell" and "may have been" are never supposed to be in the same sentence.

except maybe "It's not a bombshell, we don't know for sure, we're gossiping like little girls that X may have been"
The only thing in question is intent. It is possible it was an accident that 30% of their vaccines were ineffective and they didn't inform anyone. So they knew it was essentially a placebo and let people take it anyway.

Had you watched the video you would know that. Now, is that ethical?


@metal-brain said
The only thing in question is intent. It is possible it was an accident that 30% of their vaccines were ineffective and they didn't inform anyone. So they knew it was essentially a placebo and let people take it anyway.

Had you watched the video you would know that. Now, is that ethical?
Gullible as the day is long.


How proud you must be.


@Suzianne
Try watching it before trolling stupid nonsense.


@zahlanzi said
"bombshell" and "may have been" are never supposed to be in the same sentence.

except maybe "It's not a bombshell, we don't know for sure, we're gossiping like little girls that X may have been"
https://dailysceptic.org/2023/06/28/pfizer-vaccine-batches-in-the-eu-were-placebos-say-scientists/


@metal-brain said
Is that ethical?

https://rumble.com/v2wx3w0-bombshell-one-in-three-pfizer-vaccine-shots-may-have-been-a-placebo.html
If this only gets as far as a douche depot like rumble.com, then I'm not going to believe it.

On the other hand, if this conspiracy theory were true, then it would undermine other conspiracy theories that the "vaccines don't work." Maybe you can see why, but that's another thing I'm not going to believe.

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@soothfast said
If this only gets as far as a douche depot like rumble.com, then I'm not going to believe it.

On the other hand, if this conspiracy theory were true, then it would undermine other conspiracy theories that the "vaccines don't work." Maybe you can see why, but that's another thing I'm not going to believe.
The clotshot didn't work.

It didn't stop you catching wuflu, it didn't stop you passing wuflu on, it didn't stop you from dying of wuflu, at the end of it all they (and you) can only try to claim if you took the juice you might not get (unquantifiable) as sick as pure bloods.

The only question that remains is how harmful was the seizure syrup, and if you got the saline placebo you should be thankful.

4000 excess deaths in NZ in the last 2 years and rising, if they could pin those deaths on alcohol, tobacco, drugs, MVAs, anything else we'd never hear the end of it. Indeed if they could pin those deaths on the wuflu we'd hear nothing else.

But they can't.


@wajoma said
The clotshot didn't work.

It didn't stop you catching wuflu, it didn't stop you passing wuflu on, it didn't stop you from dying of wuflu, at the end of it all they (and you) can only try to claim if you took the juice you might not get (unquantifiable) as sick as pure bloods.

The only question that remains is how harmful was the seizure syrup, and if you got the saline ...[text shortened]... it. Indeed if they could pin those deaths on the wuflu we'd hear nothing else.

But they can't.
Placebo deaths?

Now that is weak.


@metal-brain said
@Suzianne
Try watching it before trolling stupid nonsense.
If I wanted to watch stupid, I'd flip on Fox News. Or C-SPAN these days.


@wajoma said
The clotshot didn't work.

It didn't stop you catching wuflu, it didn't stop you passing wuflu on, it didn't stop you from dying of wuflu, at the end of it all they (and you) can only try to claim if you took the juice you might not get (unquantifiable) as sick as pure bloods.

The only question that remains is how harmful was the seizure syrup, and if you got the saline ...[text shortened]... it. Indeed if they could pin those deaths on the wuflu we'd hear nothing else.

But they can't.
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@metal-brain said
Is that ethical?

https://rumble.com/v2wx3w0-bombshell-one-in-three-pfizer-vaccine-shots-may-have-been-a-placebo.html
So by all accounts we have 30% less to worry about.

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@wajoma said
The clotshot didn't work.

It didn't stop you catching wuflu, it didn't stop you passing wuflu on, it didn't stop you from dying of wuflu, at the end of it all they (and you) can only try to claim if you took the juice you might not get (unquantifiable) as sick as pure bloods.

The only question that remains is how harmful was the seizure syrup, and if you got the saline ...[text shortened]... it. Indeed if they could pin those deaths on the wuflu we'd hear nothing else.

But they can't.
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@kmax87 said
So by all accounts we have 30% less to worry about.
As Wajoma pointed out, those that got injected with saline water are probably fortunate they didn't get injected with the gene vaccine, but if I sold saline water as a vaccine they would throw me in prison. Right?

Why isn't Pfizer being prosecuted for medical fraud? What they did was about as ethical as a fake healer bilking people out of money for a placebo. Can these scam victims get their money back? Actually, the taxpayer paid for them. Can the taxpayer get their money back?

30% less money the taxpayer has for a placebo. The taxpayer has a right to worry they will never get their money back for placebo injections they paid for.

https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/pfizer-biontech-covid-vaccine-placebo/

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@soothfast said
If this only gets as far as a douche depot like rumble.com, then I'm not going to believe it.

On the other hand, if this conspiracy theory were true, then it would undermine other conspiracy theories that the "vaccines don't work." Maybe you can see why, but that's another thing I'm not going to believe.
I know you don't want to believe facts.
Vaccines are not required to be tested with a placebo control group. Do you know why? Because they say it is unethical.

https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/01/no-us-childhood-vaccines-were-placebo-tested-why-the-pharmagovernment-complex-is-getting-desperate-to-shut-down-the-web.html

https://rumble.com/v2x3hqs-asian-students-finally-get-a-fair-chance-after-affirmative-action-scotus-ru.html

So by that standard what Pfizer did was unethical. Unless you want to defend a double standard.