@wildgrass saidLike i say above i do not know.
Waste is a much more subjective term, since some of the waste he identified was in fact cancer research.
Did he find fraud? The Internet says no.
Whew. Did you or they find out how much was wasted on kitchen help? gotta know!!
I just want the money back, I do't care how they get it. We got tuitions to pay!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidAre you really telling us you didn't see the report where Musk says among other things, the bill is a 'disgusting abomination'. I guess you don't like that so it blurred right out of the place where brain cells used to be.
Tell us what you mean, explain Musk 'fallout' in Forum-eze, and not links, etc. Just plain english. Googled Musk fallout, nothing there except pot-shots at a not-perfect process as the market is getting stronger.
He has been successful if he has saved us a million. I guess that if Kewpie worked for Trump you would not like her either??
@AverageJoe1 saidIm sure if he found it you'd have heard by now.
Like i say above i do not know.
Whew. Did you or they find out how much was wasted on kitchen help? gotta know!!
I just want the money back, I do't care how they get it. We got tuitions to pay!!!
@sonhouse saidThis is a great study for you polyannas. Everything is not perfect. These two genius men can hardly be expected to agree on everything. If everyone agreed on everything, well,,,,,and follow me here Sonhouse,,,,,,then,,,then..., Oh, never mind. We wouldn't agree!!!
Are you really telling us you didn't see the report where Musk says among other things, the bill is a 'disgusting abomination'. I guess you don't like that so it blurred right out of the place where brain cells used to be.
@AverageJoe1 saidNot perfect but perfect enough for you to TOTALLY agree with the squeaker of the house Johnson that it is a BEAUTIFUL BILL in spite of the FACT JACK that MILLIONS of poor folks WILL be kicked off Medicaid. AND hundreds of thousands of single moms kicked off SNAP, no food stamps, no child care while they are at work and they may have to quit if she loses all that but do YOU give a rats ass?
This is a great study for you polyannas. Everything is not perfect. These two genius men can hardly be expected to agree on everything. If everyone agreed on everything, well,,,,,and follow me here Sonhouse,,,,,,then,,,then..., Oh, never mind. We wouldn't agree!!!
Clearly the answer is NO.
BESIDES the POS provision crippling SCOTUS and lower courts from enforcing injunctions and contempt rulings.
But OF COURSE that is EXACTLY what you AND your Lord Trump wants so it will be a LOT easier to have Trump anointed KING Trump.
You can admit it, we won't think anything less of you if you just admit it and get it over with.
@sonhouse saidDoes no one have ANY insurance in case they incur health probs. Not the kids either? If your neighbor has supplemental ins and you don’t…. How do the folks in your circles regard this ?
Not perfect but perfect enough for you to TOTALLY agree with the squeaker of the house Johnson that it is a BEAUTIFUL BILL in spite of the FACT JACK that MILLIONS of poor folks WILL be kicked off Medicaid. AND hundreds of thousands of single moms kicked off SNAP, no food stamps, no child care while they are at work and they may have to quit if she loses all that but do YOU g ...[text shortened]... p.
You can admit it, we won't think anything less of you if you just admit it and get it over with.
AARP has great insurance (United Health) that everyone, especially retired, should look into. My 2 cents.
And you are wrong to scare people that all is about to be lost.
Trump today banned people from 20 countries from coming to USA. Please study up for us and report in.
@AverageJoe1 saidUnited Health? Isn't that the CEO that got shot because he was a scumbag?
Does no one have ANY insurance in case they incur health probs. Not the kids either? If your neighbor has supplemental ins and you don’t…. How do the folks in your circles regard this ?
AARP has great insurance (United Health) that everyone, especially retired, should look into. My 2 cents.
And you are wrong to scare people that all is about to be lost.
T ...[text shortened]... mp today banned people from 20 countries from coming to USA. Please study up for us and report in.
@AverageJoe1 said"Trump today banned people from 20 countries from coming to USA. Please study up for us and report in."
Does no one have ANY insurance in case they incur health probs. Not the kids either? If your neighbor has supplemental ins and you don’t…. How do the folks in your circles regard this ?
AARP has great insurance (United Health) that everyone, especially retired, should look into. My 2 cents.
And you are wrong to scare people that all is about to be lost.
T ...[text shortened]... mp today banned people from 20 countries from coming to USA. Please study up for us and report in.
Oh, goodie, more racist travel bans. He didn't learn the first time, I see.
And you know that's not just restricting them from coming here, it also restricts Americans going there. I thought you were against anyone restricting Americans' travel? But Trump can do whatever he wants, n'est-ce pas?
@AverageJoe1 saidIf you don't have anything to say, then don't say it!
This is a great study for you polyannas. Everything is not perfect. These two genius men can hardly be expected to agree on everything. If everyone agreed on everything, well,,,,,and follow me here Sonhouse,,,,,,then,,,then..., Oh, never mind. We wouldn't agree!!!
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@AverageJoe1 said"I just want the money back."
I just want the money back, I do't care how they get it. We got tuitions to pay!!!
How about if they take the food out of the mouths of babies and the poor, like in this "Big beautiful bill"??
"I don't care how they get it."
No, I bet you don't. Even though it is not your money.
Sounds suspiciously like "Gimme it!" to me.
You people have no shame. Not a shred.
@AverageJoe1 said"DOGE has identified waste. I am not familiar with fraud, and when the phrase Waste, Fraud and Abuse was created, it is what we call a catch-phrase, all encompassing, of the nature of their search.
Not the searcher you guys are, but here is an easy answer.
DOGE has identified waste. I am not familiar with fraud, and when the phrase Waste, Fraud and Abuse was created, it is what we call a catch-phrase, all encompassing, of the nature of their search.
To my knowledge, no abuse, either, though suspected, has been nailed down.
Curious: Why do y'all ke ...[text shortened]... WHY??
My thnking is to let DC do its job and , wake me when its over. Off to play. Cheers.
"To my knowledge, no abuse, either, though suspected, has been nailed down."
The only waste, fraud and abuse I know about was the $38 million given to Elon Musk and his subsidiaries. When is the Treasury gonna see that money again? Oh, never? Waste and fraud FOR SURE.
@AverageJoe1 saidThe travel ban AND the 50% tariff on metals is to distract from the incredibly disgusting budget bill and nothing more. The MINUTE that horrible bill passes there will be an end to the travel ban and the tariff will go back to its old number.
Does no one have ANY insurance in case they incur health probs. Not the kids either? If your neighbor has supplemental ins and you don’t…. How do the folks in your circles regard this ?
AARP has great insurance (United Health) that everyone, especially retired, should look into. My 2 cents.
And you are wrong to scare people that all is about to be lost.
T ...[text shortened]... mp today banned people from 20 countries from coming to USA. Please study up for us and report in.
That said, you clearly are unable to talk about the gist of my last post.
Trump CLEARLY wants to BE Judicial, legislative AND executive, meaning he wants to be literally King Trump.
And you cannot admit that is what he wants and by extension that you want the same thing for your Lord Trump. Why can't you just admit it and get it off your chest?
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@AverageJoe1 saidSo the TWO TRILLION Musk said he would find in fraud and waste was pared down to much less than ONE TENTH of that, 150 billion. BUT even THAT is a lie, the real numbers are less than HALF of that, more like 70 billion. That is a large number for sure but with the national debt running right now some 36 TRILLION that 70 billion represents one FIVE HUNDREDTHS of the total debt. So you would not even take down the debt to 35 trillion.
Your facetiousness and cynicism just does not go far with this crowd, as their giggling-over-comedy with your comments such as this are all that they get from it. A bit flat, you see.
'is this a you-tube joe'/. Is there no seriousness with liberals? It is a report on the Recission Package, man, it could be on Yic Toc, You Tube , what difference? At least it is fa ...[text shortened]... o know about doge is on the Internet. if you want someone to get some links, I recommend Marauder ..
All of that at the cost of decimating actual government services, like the POS phone line at SS, or the fact the budget of NASA is going to be cut so forget about competing with China in the new space race, they will beat us to Mars.
Or National park employee cuts so deep some parks are closed to visitors which means that much less tourist money so ZERO savings, in fact LOSING money.
Or the contracts cut out of the VA like the one paying for sterilization of medical tools like scalpels and such.
And massive cuts in federal work forces. Tens of thousands of lives totally screwed, those who did their job well fired for ZERO reason using crap like poor employee performance when it was easy to show those workers getting exemplary reviews, Hypocrites all of those zombies and Musk and now that he is gone good riddance.
He has caused WAY more pain than anyone else in US history in terms of strife at the federal level, firing with ZERO study and it sounds like for you that should be how it goes, SCREW overall performance of some agency or other, decimate ALL of them and damn the consequences,. including damage to constituents of those Zombies.
Let's see YOUR rationale for those deep cuts, like to FEMA where the acting head goes "I didn't know there WAS a hurricane season'.
Or the head of the department of education failing even basic knowledge of US educational placement on the world stage.
Asked how we did with math she goes TERRIBLE and the answer was WE WERE THE TOP level.
Then that dude asking the question goes 1.5 billion a year budget, so the last ten years, what, a TRILLION dollars? She doesn't answer, than a DEMOCRAT says wait, 1.5 billion times ten is FIFTEEN billion not one TRILLION. And she goes 1.2 billion. And he replied ok, TWEVE billion in ten years.
And you really think repubs are COMPETENT?
@sonhouse saidReally long. Get dizzy counting the number ot TRILLION
So the TWO TRILLION Musk said he would find in fraud and waste was pared down to much less than ONE TENTH of that, 150 billion. BUT even THAT is a lie, the real numbers are less than HALF of that, more like 70 billion. That is a large number for sure but with the national debt running right now some 36 TRILLION that 70 billion represents one FIVE HUNDREDTHS of the total debt ...[text shortened]... billion. And he replied ok, TWEVE billion in ten years.
And you really think repubs are COMPETENT?