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@metal-brain saidIf a man grabbed your head and forcefully kissed you, is it okay since you wouldn't mind a woman doing that?
Is it only because a man did it to a woman?
Now imagine her doing it to him. Is that just as unacceptable?
I'll bet a man would not complain. He would be flattered.
It is only unacceptable because the woman complained about it. Right?
@metal-brain saidSo, if a man kissed you like that, you wouldn’t complain?
Is it only because a man did it to a woman?
Now imagine her doing it to him. Is that just as unacceptable?
I'll bet a man would not complain. He would be flattered.
It is only unacceptable because the woman complained about it. Right?
@vivify saidNo, I said if she did that to him he would not complain. Women are sensitive to unwanted advances from men. Men are not as sensitive when a woman does the same thing to a man.
If a man grabbed your head and forcefully kissed you, is it okay since you wouldn't mind a woman doing that?
It is a woman thing. Most men would not complain. They would be too busy feeling flattered and liking it.
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@metal-brain saidSo if he grabbed your head and forcefully kissed you on the lips, you'd be fine with it? Yes or no?
No, I said if she did that to him he would not complain. Women are sensitive to unwanted advances from men. Men are not as sensitive when a woman does the same thing to a man.
It is a woman thing. Most men would not complain. They would be too busy feeling flattered and liking it.
@metal-brain saidIt's a simple yes or no question and you're flopping around it.
You know that is not what I said.
Was the woman a lesbian that finds men repulsive?
Yes or no: you'd be fine with a man forcefully kissing you on the lips?
@metal-brain saidSo hetero women shouldn't have a problem with men forcefully kissing them without consent? Is that what you're saying?
No because I am not gay. Are you?
@metal-brain saidYou’re such an incel dumb arse, you crack me up.
No because I am not gay. Are you?
@vivify saidNo, hetero men shouldn't have a problem with women forcefully kissing them without consent. I don't know about gay people. You would have to ask them.
So hetero women shouldn't have a problem with men forcefully kissing them without consent? Is that what you're saying?
There is a double standard at play because women dislike that more than men.
Men are unlikely to complain if a woman does it to them. Why is that so hard for women to understand? We are not like women. It doesn't bother us.
@shavixmir saidYou must be gay or a woman. There is no way you are a hetero man. You don't understand anything about men except having sex with them.
You’re such an incel dumb arse, you crack me up.
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@metal-brain saidSo you're saying....that because you believe men wouldn't be bothered by it...that women should be okay with men forcing intimate contact on them?
No, hetero men shouldn't have a problem with women forcefully kissing them without consent. I don't know about gay people. You would have to ask them.
There is a double standard at play because women dislike that more than men.
Men are unlikely to complain if a woman does it to them. Why is that so hard for women to understand? We are not like women. It doesn't bother us.
This is what you seem to be saying without having the balls to outright say it. Am I correct?
@vivify saidNo, just the opposite. I am acknowledging a double standard that you should have the balls to admit exists as well. Men and women are different and not just physically. We think differently. What bothers women in some cases does not bother men and vice versa.
So you're saying....that because you believe men wouldn't be bothered by it...that should be okay with men forcing themselves women?
This is what you seem to be saying without having the balls to outright say it. Am I correct?
People should accept women don't like some things men like and vice versa and try to respect that. For example, women should stop punishing men for being honest. It is a boundary women should not cross, but they do it anyway as if they have a right to.
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@metal-brain saidYour post acknowledges women have the right not to accept men forcing nonconsensual contact, but you're upset by it.
No, just the opposite. I am acknowledging a double standard that you should have the balls to admit exists as well. Men and women are different and not just physically. We think differently. What bothers women in some cases does not bother men and vice versa.
People should accept women don't like some things men like and vice versa and try to respect that. For example ...[text shortened]... g honest. It is a boundary women should not cross, but they do it anyway as if they have a right to.
You wouldn't mind some strange creepy woman breaking into your house rubbing her hairy crotch all over your face...and you wish women were the same with men.
My reply to that: who gives a fuk what you think. You're not the victim here. Why make this about how you wish women were? Whether you admit it or not you're victim blaming. You're complaining "why is she so uptight?" about a man violating her rather than denouncing that a-hole's actions.
And it's a god damn shame.