23 Dec 04
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In making a completely unrelated post just I had a lightbulb moment.
We are all made up of atoms. Those atoms are recycled and reused, so we share atoms that used to belong to rocks, trees etc.
Jesus had his hair cut right, he clipped his nails, he beathed, he shead his skin. In essence his atoms are still on earth. They would have been resorbed back into the earth and distributed into the soil, then plants and finally animals. Could this make a few humans/rocks/jellyfish/atheistsmore holy than the Pope?
With love
GEOS
23 Dec 04
Originally posted by GrayeyesofsorrowEqually interesting that people will have a % of Hitler in them.
We do infact have Jesus's % numbers. In that the % of our atoms that were once part of Jesus. I think RBHILL could be one of Jesus's dumps. Although we cant check, isnt it amusing to think that someone like Bbarr could have a higher % of Jesus atoms in his body than say pcaspian.
I wonder what way the wind was blowin' on April 30th 1945...
23 Dec 04
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Originally posted by shavixmirI bet some people do have a mix of Jesus and Hitler.
Equally interesting that people will have a % of Hitler in them.
I wonder what way the wind was blowin' on April 30th 1945...
Edit: Im silleh and cant type for poo and change my mind lots :-)
23 Dec 04
if my knowledge is correct roman catholics belive that when the bread of the sacrement is taken it transforms into the flesh of christ inside the body, so the pope would be more holy. But our knowledge of jesus come mainly from paul not them that worked along side, so yes he must have done the human acts going to the toilet but do you realy want to read this, as it is his works on earth that are important
23 Dec 04
Originally posted by stokerIt quite possible that clerics back in his day didnt go at all. prefering to remain, in the time time honored tradition of moses, full ot it.
if my knowledge is correct roman catholics belive that when the bread of the sacrement is taken it transforms into the flesh of christ inside the body, so the pope would be more holy. But our knowledge of jesus come mainly from paul not them that worked along side, so yes he must have done the human acts going to the toilet but do you realy want to read this, as it is his works on earth that are important
24 Dec 04
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Originally posted by GrayeyesofsorrowAll but the billions we now breath.
Does the church take a stance on this? Were all Jesus atoms taken to heaven when Jesus died?
See Harlow Shapley.
Each breath we take contains at least one of his molecules.
Sorry. Just made that up. But it will be true from now on.
Statistical analysis. Great stuff -- that.
24 Dec 04
Originally posted by Grayeyesofsorrow
Does the church take a stance on this? Were all Jesus atoms taken to heaven when Jesus died?
I can't speak authoritatively on the subject, but I will offer this,
which I believe would be the Roman Catholic Church's point of
view:
Jesus was, without dispute, a man. He did everything that you
and I do in terms of eating, bathing, and so forth.
There was nothing remarkable about his man-ness. It is not the
flesh that makes a man (or woman) holy, but the spirit. The closer
you are to God, the holier you are.
So, Jesus's atoms are no more special than yours and Hitler's are no
worse. Atoms are part of this world, the corporeal world.
The spirit is where the holiness resides. So, whether or not
you have some of Jesus' atoms or not makes no spiritual difference.
As for stoker's comment:
if my knowledge is correct roman catholics belive that when the bread of the sacrement is taken it transforms into the flesh of christ inside the body, so the pope would be more holy.
This is not the Roman Catholic stance on 'transubstantiation.' The
way they view it is like this. Normal bread has two parts, the visible
part, called the 'accidents' (the way it looks, feels, tastes, &c), and
the essential part, called the 'substance.' When the priest says Mass,
during the Eucharistic Prayer, he calls down the Holy Spirit and asks
that it change the substance of the bread into the Jesus'
substantial body (and likewise with the wine into blood). It keeps the
accidents of the bread (it doesn't become 'flesh'😉 but has the
substance of Jesus' holy Body. It is Spiritual Food and Drink, that is
it nourishes the soul.
Nemesio
24 Dec 04
Originally posted by stokerThis definition of 'accidents' and 'substance' is essentially
thanks nemeso. if that is the case you have enlightened me
the St Thomas Aquinas understanding of the mystery of
the Eucharist, which (as I recall) comes from the late 12th
century. It's somewhat more complicated than my short
reply explains, but you get the gist. Aquinas had a
larger impact on shaping Roman Catholic theology than
any other theologian. St Augustine is second, I think.
Nemesio