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  1. Standard member wittywonka
    Chocolate Expert
    21 Feb '11 08:17
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2011/02/15/south_dakota_abortion_killing_bill

    South Dakota is a red state. It goes without saying that abortion is going to be unpopular there. How unpopular, you wonder? Unpopular enough that the South Dakota Legislature is considering a bill to let relatives of a woman seeking an abortion legally kill the provider performing the procedure.

    According to Mother Jones:

    "The bill, sponsored by state Rep. Phil Jensen, a committed foe of abortion rights, alters the state's legal definition of justifiable homicide by adding language stating that a homicide is permissible if committed by a person 'while resisting an attempt to harm' that person's unborn child or the unborn child of that person's spouse, partner, parent, or child."

    The bill was originally intended as a procedural formality, a "simple clarification of South Dakota's justifiable homicide law." It did not contain any language about unborn fetuses. However, the legislation was heavily amended in committee to include the incendiary legal language. A floor vote on the proposal is expected soon.


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    Please, please, please... somebody find me a link that shows me that I bought into a hoax of some sort - at least I would only be partially scarred.
  2. Subscriber FMF
    a.k.a. John W Booth
    21 Feb '11 08:38
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    South Dakota is a red state. It goes without saying that abortion is going to be unpopular there. How unpopular, you wonder? Unpopular enough that the South Dakota Legislature is considering a bill to let relatives of a woman seeking an abortion legally kill the provider performing the procedure.
    A hoax, surely? There are adamant "pro-life" advocates on this forum - with the sort of belief system that State Rep. Phil Jensen's bill is courting - and yet these posters always unequivocally condemn the murder of abortion doctors. They'll be along here soon, no doubt, to condemn what is being considered in South Dakota. Unless it's a hoax. In which they might instead condemn its poor taste.
  3. 21 Feb '11 09:49
    Surely it makes sense? If you truly believe that an unborn child has as much legal right as a born child, then where is the problem? The conferring of human rights at birth is after all largely arbitrary.
  4. 21 Feb '11 15:51
    What? Nobody wants to take me up on this?

    The only part of the law I question, is why relatives have superior rights. Surely I have the right to defend the life of any child regardless of whether I am related to them?
  5. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    21 Feb '11 15:55
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2011/02/15/south_dakota_abortion_killing_bill

    [i]South Dakota is a red state. It goes without saying that abortion is going to be unpopular there. How unpopular, you wonder? Unpopular enough that the South Dakota Legislature is considering a bill to let relatives of a woman seeking an abortion legally kill the provider ...[text shortened]... e that I bought into a hoax of some sort - at least I would only be partially scarred.
    Welcome to the Christian version of the Middle East.
  6. 21 Feb '11 15:57
    Originally posted by wittywonka
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2011/02/15/south_dakota_abortion_killing_bill

    [i]South Dakota is a red state. It goes without saying that abortion is going to be unpopular there. How unpopular, you wonder? Unpopular enough that the South Dakota Legislature is considering a bill to let relatives of a woman seeking an abortion legally kill the provider ...[text shortened]... e that I bought into a hoax of some sort - at least I would only be partially scarred.
    According to the following link, it's been tabled 61 to 4, till "a future time."

    http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/crime/6386-south-dakota-unborn-child-defense-bill-dead-for-now

    Ifr you go to the bill itself from the above link, there is a statement "This bill has been extensively amended (hoghoused) and may no longer be consistent with the original intention of the sponsor."

    hoghouse
    attrib. connotating legislation that has been stripped of its original provisions and amended to accomplish a different purpose.

    http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/hoghouse/
  7. Subscriber AThousandYoung
    Poor Filipov :,(
    21 Feb '11 15:57
    Here's the original Mother Jones article. MJ is pretty reputable if left wing leaning.

    http://motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/south-dakota-hb-1171-legalize-killing-abortion-providers
  8. 21 Feb '11 18:48
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Welcome to the Christian version of the Middle East.
    Hey, at least nobody is requiring the woman seeking an abortion to deprive the world of having a clear view of her curves and bust in case she might be deemed "rapeable".