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http://news.yahoo.com/africa-agrees-send-7-500-troops-fight-boko-121533918.html

A coalition of African nations is being formed to send troops to fight Boko Haram in Nigeria.

Why was this not done against Gaddafi and the Sudan? Why are not the middle eastern countries doing this against ISIS? Why did the US fight Gaddafi but not Boko Haram and ISIS or the Sudan?

Interesting stuff.


Many Middle Eastern governments are involved in operations against IS.


Originally posted by whodey
http://news.yahoo.com/africa-agrees-send-7-500-troops-fight-boko-121533918.html

A coalition of African nations is being formed to send troops to fight Boko Haram in Nigeria.

Why was this not done against Gaddafi and the Sudan? Why are not the middle eastern countries doing this against ISIS? Why did the US fight Gaddafi but not Boko Haram and ISIS or the Sudan?
It wasn't done against Ghadaffi and Sudan because those were seen as internal conflicts - which, after all, they were. Boko Haram is an international problem. Isis is being fought by several countries in vague cooperation; this ought to be more coordinated but that's going to be difficult because of pre-existing inimicalities.

As for why the USA fought Ghadaffi but not the others, well... follow the money. There's oil to be had in Libya, there's no oil to be had in the parts of Nigeria where Boko Haram is and they've already stolen all the oil wells in Iraq during the previous raid.


Originally posted by KazetNagorra
Many Middle Eastern governments are involved in operations against IS.
Saying they will do something about it and actually doing something about it are two things entirely.

Just as Europe is dependent upon the US military for their safety and security, so are those people in Iraq and surrounding region.

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Originally posted by Shallow Blue
It wasn't done against Ghadaffi and Sudan because those were seen as internal conflicts - which, after all, they were. Boko Haram is an international problem. Isis is being fought by several countries in vague cooperation; this ought to be more coordinated but that's going to be difficult because of pre-existing inimicalities.

As for why the U ...[text shortened]... ere Boko Haram is and they've already stolen all the oil wells in Iraq during the previous raid.
But the battle is still for Iraq, still for the same oil fields that many died for already.

Why is the US absent this round?

As for the argument that internal genocide should be permitted, that is just plain crazy. Why is internal genocide any better than external genocide? 🙄


Originally posted by whodey
Saying they will do something about it and actually doing something about it are two things entirely.

Just as Europe is dependent upon the US military for their safety and security, so are those people in Iraq and surrounding region.
Here's a golden tip for you. If you want to talk about a certain topic and don't want to look like a complete idiot, learn some basic facts about the topic.


Originally posted by whodey
Why is the US absent this round?
Fracking has made the US less dependent on foreign oil. Also, Obama doesn't have a family vendetta to complete in the region.

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Originally posted by whodey
http://news.yahoo.com/africa-agrees-send-7-500-troops-fight-boko-121533918.html

A coalition of African nations is being formed to send troops to fight Boko Haram in Nigeria.

Why was this not done against Gaddafi and the Sudan? Why are not the middle eastern countries doing this against ISIS? Why did the US fight Gaddafi but not Boko Haram and ISIS or the Sudan?

Interesting stuff.
The black Africans worked for Gaddafi. He was their King of Kings


Originally posted by whodey
http://news.yahoo.com/africa-agrees-send-7-500-troops-fight-boko-121533918.html

A coalition of African nations is being formed to send troops to fight Boko Haram in Nigeria.

Why was this not done against Gaddafi and the Sudan? Why are not the middle eastern countries doing this against ISIS? Why did the US fight Gaddafi but not Boko Haram and ISIS or the Sudan?

Interesting stuff.
There's no "good guys" here; the BH insurgency is a result of Nigeria's brutal and corrupt government:

Boko Haram had swept into Borno’s capital, Maiduguri, a magnet for the region’s rural poor.

Tucked away in the remote north-eastern corner of Nigeria, Borno is one of its most mismanaged states, which is saying something. Its literacy rate is two-thirds lower than in Lagos, the southern business hub. Fewer than 5% of women in parts of Borno can read or write. Income per head is 50% lower than in the south, school attendance 75% lower. In the past the state government has been a byword for corruption. Elections have been noted for their thuggishness and dishonesty.


By contrast, Yusuf built up a disciplined sect that provided free food, education and hope to its followers. Sensing a threat, the then governor set out in 2002 to destroy it. Hundreds of its members were killed, along with bystanders. In one episode, security forces killed 19 motorcyclists for not wearing helmets. But the crackdown made people revere Yusuf all the more. He attracted new followers, including some that had been in touch with Muslim militants in countries of the Sahara, such as Algeria, Mali and Niger. They wanted to fight the governor under the banner of jihad, inspired by al-Qaeda and Afghanistan’s Taliban. Some went off to train in east Africa.

By 2009, when Boko Haram had become increasingly violent, the governor brought in extra security forces, who killed around 1,000 people. Thousands more were rounded up and held without trial. Yusuf was shot dead, apparently by a police firing squad. Boko Haram’s survivors fled to neighbouring countries to regroup. The government’s indiscriminate crackdown, led by troops from the south, let them close a long-standing ethnic division in northern Nigeria between Kanuris and the dominant Hausa-Fulani. Both now saw Nigeria’s southern ethnic groups, the national security forces and a corrupt northern elite as a common enemy.

http://www.economist.com/node/21563751

The US should, but won't, stay completely out of it.


Originally posted by whodey
Saying they will do something about it and actually doing something about it are two things entirely.

Just as Europe is dependent upon the US military for their safety and security, so are those people in Iraq and surrounding region.
It's a cruel joke after what the US did to Iraq to say the people there are "dependent" on our military "for their safety and security".