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It's not often that I agree with Iran on anything, but Iran's supreme leader makes a valid point here. America is not speaking with one voice on it's foreign policy (or any other policy for that matter.) Republicans and Democrats are now so far apart, on so many issues, our country is now a house divided. It's possible America is drifting to it's own end.

http://news.yahoo.com/irans-top-leader-gop-letter-points-us-disintegration-102812084.html

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http://news.yahoo.com/senator-warns-obama--don-t-skip-congress-for-u-n--on-iran-175835014.html

Senator Corker warned Obama not to side step Congressional authority...............again............and make a deal with Iran devoid of Congressional input.

Corker said that if Obama does cross his red line in the sand there will be no smiling at him when they cave into his demands and lube must be provided when they assume the position.

Do you really believe this circus show Bill? There is no division, just the illusion of division.

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Originally posted by whodey
http://news.yahoo.com/senator-warns-obama--don-t-skip-congress-for-u-n--on-iran-175835014.html

Senator Corker warned Obama not to side step Congressional authority...............again............and make a deal with Iran devoid of Congressional input.

Corker said that if Obama does cross his red line in the sand there will be no smiling at him when they ...[text shortened]... you really believe this circus show Bill? There is no division, just the illusion of division.
Whodey, you have a memory issue here. When GW Bush started operation Iraq Freedom, Democrats did not send letters to Saddam Hussien, saying they did not support the President. This, despite the fact most of them did not agree with Bush. They allowed Bush to have his way, because he was President at that time. As far as Sen. Corker is concerned, Obama has had plenty of "input" from Congress, and knows exactly what they think.

This is not a circus whodey, (I don't know where you're getting that from) it's a pretty ugly sutuation, and a situation where Sen. Corker and his GOP friends may very well find themselves on trial for treason.

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Originally posted by bill718
Whodey, you have a memory issue here. When GW Bush started operation Iraq Freedom, Democrats did not send letters to Saddam Hussien, saying they did not support the President. This, despite the fact most of them did not agree with Bush. They allowed Bush to have his way, because he was President at that time. As far as Sen. Corker is concerned, Obama has had ...[text shortened]... uation where Sen. Corker and his GOP friends may very well find themselves on trial for treason.
The Democrats voted for "W" to go to war and then feigned outrage at the invasion.

My point here is that the GOP outrage is all an act, just like the outrage we saw from Democrats who declared "W" lied and should be impeached.

They are all one party Bill.

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Originally posted by whodey
The Democrats voted for "W" to go to war and then feigned outrage at the invasion.

My point here is that the GOP outrage is all an act, just like the outrage we saw from Democrats who declared "W" lied and should be impeached.

They are all one party Bill.
They are all one party? Sorry, I don't think so. They use the same tactics, I'll agree, but they are not the same party.

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Originally posted by whodey
The Democrats voted for "W" to go to war and then feigned outrage at the invasion.

My point here is that the GOP outrage is all an act, just like the outrage we saw from Democrats who declared "W" lied and should be impeached.

They are all one party Bill.
Actually the Democrats in Congress voted against the 2002 War Authorization by a margin of 147-111 while Republicans voted for it by a margin of 263-7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution

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Originally posted by bill718
It's not often that I agree with Iran on anything, but Iran's supreme leader makes a valid point here. America is not speaking with one voice on it's foreign policy (or any other policy for that matter.) Republicans and Democrats are now so far apart, on so many issues, our country is now a house divided. It's possible America is drifting to it's own end.

http://news.yahoo.com/irans-top-leader-gop-letter-points-us-disintegration-102812084.html
Republicans and Democrats are not really that far apart on the issues (at least no farther apart than they have been historically).

It's more that for political purposes, they are required to shout about how far apart they are for the benefit of the soundbite news media.

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Originally posted by sh76
Republicans and Democrats are not really that far apart on the issues (at least no farther apart than they have been historically).

It's more that for political purposes, they are required to shout about how far apart they are for the benefit of the soundbite news media.
I hope you're correct, but I have my doubts.

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Originally posted by bill718
It's not often that I agree with Iran on anything, but Iran's supreme leader makes a valid point here. America is not speaking with one voice on it's foreign policy (or any other policy for that matter.) Republicans and Democrats are now so far apart, on so many issues, our country is now a house divided. It's possible America is drifting to it's own end.

http://news.yahoo.com/irans-top-leader-gop-letter-points-us-disintegration-102812084.html
We started drifting to our own end when we elected Obama and he ushered in the Arab Spring.

Americans are such morons for electing that boob and they did it twice.


Of course I can see how one could argue that we started drifting with GW too, and I would have to agree.

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Originally posted by bill718
It's not often that I agree with Iran on anything, but Iran's supreme leader makes a valid point here. America is not speaking with one voice on it's foreign policy (or any other policy for that matter.) Republicans and Democrats are now so far apart, on so many issues, our country is now a house divided. It's possible America is drifting to it's own end.

http://news.yahoo.com/irans-top-leader-gop-letter-points-us-disintegration-102812084.html
A house divided against itself will not stand!!!

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Originally posted by bill718
I hope you're correct, but I have my doubts.
This isn't exactly authoritative, but check it out:

http://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2012

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Originally posted by bill718
They are all one party? Sorry, I don't think so. They use the same tactics, I'll agree, but they are not the same party.
Which is why you continue to vote.

Good luck with that.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
Actually the Democrats in Congress voted against the 2002 War Authorization by a margin of 147-111 while Republicans voted for it by a margin of 263-7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_Resolution
There are two reasons for politicians to vote. Either they feel they need to vote in order to get something passed, or they vote to make themselves look favorably to their base knowing that their vote is meaningless because it will pass without them.

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Originally posted by sh76
Republicans and Democrats are not really that far apart on the issues (at least no farther apart than they have been historically).

It's more that for political purposes, they are required to shout about how far apart they are for the benefit of the soundbite news media.
I agree with you 100%.

1. There is only one party in the U.S., The Liberal Party.
2. It has two teams, Democrat team and Republican team
3. Democrat team wants Socialist style government immediately.
4. Republican team wants Socialist style government, but perhaps a bit more slowly
5. The fight between the two teams is contrived. Certain 'hot topics' amoungst the voters are identified which the teams feel will attract more votes for their team.
6. No matter which team wins, the same agenda is followed. (note: Now Republicans now control both houses of Congress)
7. The successful team wins control of the money. That is the real goal. MONEY
8. U.S. Federal Government brings to mind the old New York Mafia, with the Democrats being the Genovese family and the Republicans being the Gambino family. Difference being, these 'political families' are far more corrupt and dangerous.

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