We all know that USA invaded Iraq for oil and not for saving its people from Saddam, even though many turn a blind eye to the foreseeable deaths of tens of thousands of people and pretend otherwise.
Here, in a historical example where America puts its interests before what is right, America granted amnesty, allowing scientists to go unprosecuted for human experiments, in exchange for their experimentation data.
Unit 731 was a secret military "medical" unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that researched biological warfare and other topics through human experimentation during the Sino-Japanese War (1937-1945) and World War II era. For information on its origin see Kempeitai Political Department and Epidemic Prevention Research Laboratory.
The unit was disguised as a water purification unit. It was based in Pingfan, near the city of Harbin in northeastern China, the region which was then part of the puppet state of Manchukuo. Various Eastern and Western sources estimate anywhere from 3,000 to 200,000 Chinese, Korean, Allied civilians and POWs were directly or indirectly killed by Unit 731's experiments.
There were other units besides Unit 731, which serves as a general term in describing the Japanese biological warfare program. Other units include Unit 543 (Hailar), Unit 773 (Songo unit), Unit 100 (Changchun), Unit 1644 (Nanjing), Unit 1855 (Beijing), Unit 8604 (Guangzhou), and Unit 9420 (Singapore). The acts of Unit 731 are one of many major war crimes committed by the Imperial Japanese Army from the occupation of Manchuria in 1931 to the end of World War II in 1945.
After these laboratories were destroyed by the Japanese to hide their activities, many of the scientists involved went on to prominent careers in politics, academia and business. The United States granted amnesty, allowing these scientists to go unprosecuted in exchange for their experimentation data.
Read the list of human experiments at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
Originally posted by STANGSo how come you are singling out the US? What about the Soviet
We all know that USA invaded Iraq for oil and not for saving its people from Saddam, even though many turn a blind eye to the foreseeable deaths of tens of thousands of people and pretend otherwise.
Here, in a historical example where America puts its interests before what is right, America granted amnesty, allowing scientists to go unprosecuted for human e ...[text shortened]... entation data.
Read the list of human experiments at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
era scientists who used hitlers bio research scientists?
What about countries like Argentina who welcomed Mengala
with open arms? You make it sound like the US is a country alone
in the world frothing at the mouth with vile hatred for everyone else
while the rest of the world is totally innocent of any such activity.
Don't forget a lot of bio research for weapons is devoted to
making antidotes for already existing ones. We in the US did not
start this bio-weapons thing, that has been going on for a century
in Europe.
Originally posted by sonhouseBioweapons have been around for as long as there has been agriculture. The close proximity of animals and humans has always created disease. When europeans went to the US, disease killed more American Indians than guns ever did.
So how come you are singling out the US? What about the Soviet
era scientists who used hitlers bio research scientists?
What about countries like Argentina who welcomed Mengala
with open arms? You make it sound like the US is a country alone
in the world frothing at the mouth with vile hatred for everyone else
while the rest of the world is totally in ...[text shortened]... the US did not
start this bio-weapons thing, that has been going on for a century
in Europe.
Originally posted by sonhouseTo answer your question, many Americans talk as if America can go no wrong and Bush referred to an "axis of evil". Over 20,000 people have died since America invaded Iraq and I will continue to single out America.
So how come you are singling out the US? What about the Soviet
era scientists who used hitlers bio research scientists?
What about countries like Argentina who welcomed Mengala
with open arms? You make it sound like the US is a country alone
in the world frothing at the mouth with vile hatred for everyone else
while the rest of the world is totally in ...[text shortened]... the US did not
start this bio-weapons thing, that has been going on for a century
in Europe.
Originally posted by sasquatch672Other than that, you like him right?
I think you're right Stang - we probably did invade Iraq for oil. If it works, which is looking unlikely, I'll be sitting on my hypocritical American ass, nice and toasty in my hypocritical house, watching hypocritical American news reports from your country about how your country went back to the Stone Age because it ran out of oil. And you can free ...[text shortened]... t we decide that countries filled with America-hating people like you can go screw themselves.
Originally posted by STANGI suppose it was ok that Saddam killed hundreds of thousands
To answer your question, many Americans talk as if America can go no wrong and Bush referred to an "axis of evil". Over 20,000 people have died since America invaded Iraq and I will continue to single out America.
of his own people and gassed whole kurd villiages to death and
completely eliminated one town where someone tried to assasinate
him. Guess thats ok then, to speak nothing of Saddam attacking
Kuwait and Iran. No big deal.
Stang, I wonder in how many ways you and anyone you care about benefit from the advances in science and medicine that were brought forth from the work of Americans, the American government, and American private corporations that funded the research.
Look no further than yourself for the absolute model of hypocrisy.
Originally posted by STANGhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Australia_policy
To answer your question, many Americans talk as if America can go no wrong and Bush referred to an "axis of evil". Over 20,000 people have died since America invaded Iraq and I will continue to single out America.
Originally posted by sonhouseSo you are saying that the US was justified in going to war because Saddam was no longer our bad guy? The world is full of bad people doing equally bad things to the citizens of their nations. Should we go after them all? If so you had better enlist 'cuz the army is going to need some help. It's off to North Korea, Iran, Syria, let's not forget Saudi Arabia and half a dozen African nations and a few in South and Central America. Then there is the long look in the mirror as we jail more people currently than there ever where in the Soviet Union.
I suppose it was ok that Saddam killed hundreds of thousands
of his own people and gassed whole kurd villiages to death and
completely eliminated one town where someone tried to assasinate
him. Guess thats ok then, to speak nothing of Saddam attacking
Kuwait and Iran. No big deal.
I am not equating the US to Saddam, but I am saying that invading a country because we don't like them is going to keep us occupied for a long time. Let us not forget the example set by the Romans. Over-extending ones self can quickly lead to their downfall.
Should we have invaded the Soviet Union as Stalin purged the nation of his enemies? Would we then have been able to defeat the Nazis?
Those that do not learn from history are destined to repeat it. A perfect example is Iraq. The British were so successful with their nation building.
Originally posted by CliffLandinWhy does everyone opposed to Iraq ask if we should invade other countries with human rights violations. I am curious if anyone who is not a politician has claimed that Iraq should be invaded for human rights and yet is opposed to invading countries like North Korea. I am not and I doubt many people are, at least on principal(of those who support Iraq I mean). I personally think a better espionage budget would be more effective than outright invasions, but if invasion were the only way to fix some of theses problems, I would support it.
So you are saying that the US was justified in going to war because Saddam was no longer our bad guy? The world is full of bad people doing equally bad things to the citizens of their nations. Should we go after them all? If so you had better enlist 'cuz the army is going to need some help. It's off to North Korea, Iran, Syria, let's not forget Saudi Ara ...[text shortened]... at it. A perfect example is Iraq. The British were so successful with their nation building.
Originally posted by CliffLandinOne at at a time! I think those countries you mention, like
So you are saying that the US was justified in going to war because Saddam was no longer our bad guy? The world is full of bad people doing equally bad things to the citizens of their nations. Should we go after them all? If so you had better enlist 'cuz the army is going to need some help. It's off to North Korea, Iran, Syria, let's not forget Saudi Ara ...[text shortened]... at it. A perfect example is Iraq. The British were so successful with their nation building.
Saudi, are the most repressive on earth but in that case the
Saudi's are 'wink, wink' on our side.
The fact that about 99% of them hate our guts and they
treat cattle better than their women makes me wonder how we
could ever support them. Lets see, how do you spell oil?
North Korea sticks to its pathetic communistic stance no matter
how starving are the people. But one thing these countries are NOT
doing is threatening their neighbors. North Korea comes closest
to being warlike but I don't think they have a stong enough economy
to sustain much of a war, I think if the US invaded, they would
collapse. But they would not hesitate to use atomic weapons
in their defense, even if it was on the theory if we can't have this
country, neither can you.
Originally posted by sonhouseAmerica's excuse for invading Iraq was WMD's.
I suppose it was ok that Saddam killed hundreds of thousands
of his own people and gassed whole kurd villiages to death and
completely eliminated one town where someone tried to assasinate
him. Guess thats ok then, to speak nothing of Saddam attacking
Kuwait and Iran. No big deal.