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  1. 15 Sep '15 03:38 / 1 edit
    Some people like to quote American pop culture celebrities as though their
    (often ignorant or thoughtless) opinions on subjects beyond mass entertainment
    should be important.

    Terrence Howard is a 46 year old American actor and singer.
    He claims to have spent many hours creating a revolutionary new form
    of mathematics, named (modestly) 'Terryology'. One of his discoveries
    is that 1 x 1 does *not* equal 1 but equals 2. Yes, 1 x 1 = 2.

    "I figured it out. If Pythagoras was here to see it, he would lose his mind. Einstein, too!"
    --Terrence Howard

    "This is the last century that our children will ever have been taught
    that one times one is one. They won't have to grow up in ignorance.
    Twenty years from now, they'll know that one times one equals two.
    We're about to show a new truth. The true universal math."
    --Terrence Howard

    So will American colleges of the future teach 1 x 1 = 2 as well as 'young Earth creationism'?
    (Terrence Howard has made an unconfirmed claim of having almost earned
    an undergraduate degree in chemical engineering at Pratt Institute.)

    The United States is a society in which the popular media may pay more
    attention to Terrence Howard than to Terence Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
  2. 15 Sep '15 03:40
    Whatever government run schools teach is swell with me.
  3. Standard member RJHinds
    The Near Genius
    15 Sep '15 04:23 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Some people like to quote American pop culture celebrities as though their
    (often ignorant or thoughtless) opinions on subjects beyond mass entertainment
    should be important.

    Terrence Howard is a 46 year old American actor and singer.
    He claims to have spent many hours creating a revolutionary new form
    of mathematics, named (modestly) 'Terryology'. ...[text shortened]... Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
    I don't know why you must be so dishonest and deceitful by attempting to associate the old tried and true belief of young earth creation with a new form of math by Terrence Howard that conflicts with all we have known to be true from the past. It is actually billions and millions of years of evolution that departs from the tried and true beliefs of the past.
  4. 15 Sep '15 06:15
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    The United States is a society in which the popular media may pay more
    attention to Terrence Howard than to Terence Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
    This is true for many, many societies and countries, among which my own.

    How about your country, Duchess?
  5. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    15 Sep '15 11:05
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Some people like to quote American pop culture celebrities as though their
    (often ignorant or thoughtless) opinions on subjects beyond mass entertainment
    should be important.

    Terrence Howard is a 46 year old American actor and singer.
    He claims to have spent many hours creating a revolutionary new form
    of mathematics, named (modestly) 'Terryology'. ...[text shortened]... Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
    Duchess - America is a melting pot of nut cases, average folks, and smart people. Terrence Howard is an entertainer who enjoy's calling attention to himself. Although Europeans are generally better educated than Americans, I can assure you very few people here take Mr. Howard seriously regarding his dysfunctional attempt at math theory.
  6. Subscriber Ponderable
    chemist
    15 Sep '15 15:42
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    ...
    The United States is a society in which the popular media may pay more
    attention to Terrence Howard than to Terence Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
    In fact I hadn't heard of Terrence Tao... and this as a European chemist I had to look him up.

    On the up side I never have heard about Terrence Howard at all and won't look him up
  7. 15 Sep '15 17:04
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Some people like to quote American pop culture celebrities as though their
    (often ignorant or thoughtless) opinions on subjects beyond mass entertainment
    should be important.

    Terrence Howard is a 46 year old American actor and singer.
    He claims to have spent many hours creating a revolutionary new form
    of mathematics, named (modestly) 'Terryology'. ...[text shortened]... Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
    this is not related in any way to mathematics. like bill said, there are very few people who actually believe howard might be on to something. and those are the nutjobs that will believe anything


    this is solely about the need to read about famous people, the need to create famous people so you can read about them.

    "famous guy said something stupid" will forever be on the news. while it is harmful in the case of the playboy dumbass bimbo convincing dumb people to not vaccinate their kids, this will not harm anyone except the dumbasses who will get into fights with shop keepers for not giving them "correct" change.


    you should follow jaden smith on twitter. now there's a guy with some deep, revolutionary thoughts.
  8. 15 Sep '15 20:47 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Great King Rat
    This is true for many, many societies and countries, among which my own.
    How about your country, Duchess?
    Personally, I never heard of Terrence Howard (a minor American pop culture celebrity),
    and I suspect that not many people who don't watch the Fox television series 'Empire' would
    know who he is. The most famous actor with a similar name that I knew was Trevor Howard.

    Given my background in mathematics, I have been long aware of Terence Tao, who has
    won a Fields Medal and is regarded as one of the top mathematicians in the world.
    I have read a book by Terence Tao and sometimes read his blog on mathematics.
    Terence Tao also has received considerable publicity in his native Australia's media.
    So I would say that Terence Tao is famous among mathematicians and seems to have
    some name recognition among non-mathematician Australians (perhaps roughly in
    the same way that Ruth Lawrence had some name recognition in the UK media).
  9. 15 Sep '15 21:05 / 3 edits
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Some people like to quote American pop culture celebrities as though their
    (often ignorant or thoughtless) opinions on subjects beyond mass entertainment
    should be important.

    Terrence Howard is a 46 year old American actor and singer.
    He claims to have spent many hours creating a revolutionary new form
    of mathematics, named (modestly) 'Terryology'. ...[text shortened]... Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
    It only sounds really daft since you took it out of context and didn't provide the explanation.

    After high school, he attended Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, studying chemical engineering, until he got into an argument with a professor about what one times one equals. "How can it equal one?" he said. "If one times one equals one that means that two is of no value because one times itself has no effect. One times one equals two because the square root of four is two, so what's the square root of two? Should be one, but we're told it's two, and that cannot be." This did not go over well, he says, and he soon left school. "I mean, you can't conform when you know innately that something is wrong."

    http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/terrence-howards-dangerous-mind-20150914?page=8


    The last line is particularly interesting: rather like a Young Earth Creationist's attitude toward evolution. For that matter, the line of "reasoning" bears similarities to that of YECs.
  10. 15 Sep '15 21:47
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Personally, I never heard of Terrence Howard (a minor American pop culture celebrity),
    and I suspect that not many people who don't watch the Fox television series 'Empire' would
    know who he is. The most famous actor with a similar name that I knew was Trevor Howard.

    Given my background in mathematics, I have been long aware of Terence Tao, who has
    ...[text shortened]... (perhaps roughly in
    the same way that Ruth Lawrence had some name recognition in the UK media).
    You seem to be a worshiper of people, specifically the people you find admirable. Most of us tend to no know great chemists or mathematicians, but do know movie actors, and athletes.

    Rarely to mathematicians or chemists become popular knowledge, as their work is mostly done in private. Usually, the only way to get noticed in those fields is to come up with an unusual apocalyptic theory.
  11. 15 Sep '15 23:51 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by ThinkOfOne
    It only sounds really daft since you took it out of context and didn't provide the explanation.

    [quote]After high school, he attended Pratt Institute in Brooklyn, studying chemical engineering, until he got into an argument with a professor about what one times one equals. "How can it equal one?" he said. "If one times one equals one that means that tw ...[text shortened]... e toward evolution. For that matter, the line of "reasoning" bears similarities to that of YECs.
    Terrence Howard's belief that 1 x 1 = 2, not 1, is 'really daft' in *every context*.

    "(Terrence) Howard's account of his educational history (at Pratt Institute) has not been confirmed."
    --Wikipedia

    Terrence Howard was caught lying (or 'misremembering' ) when he claimed on television
    to have earned a PhD in chemical engineering from South Carolina State University
    (which apparently had granted him an honorary degree). In fact, he never attended
    that university. Some of his fans may still prefer to believe his self-serving accounts.
  12. 15 Sep '15 23:59 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by normbenign
    You seem to be a worshiper of people, specifically the people you find admirable. Most of us tend to no know great chemists or mathematicians, but do know movie actors, and athletes.

    Rarely to mathematicians or chemists become popular knowledge, as their work is mostly done in private. Usually, the only way to get noticed in those fields is to come up with an unusual apocalyptic theory.
    Vivify likes to bring up what American pop culture celebrities say or do and apparently
    presumes that everyone else should be similarly fascinated by these celebrities.

    As KazetNagorra and I have pointed out, Normbenign knows nothing about academic life.
    After Andrew Wiles completed the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, he briefly became
    a pop culture celebrity. (US) 'People' magazine named Andrew Wiles as one of its
    '25 Most Intriguing People of the Year' (along with Bill Clinton and Michael Jackson).
    Barbara Walters asked him for an exclusive interview; Andrew Wiles responded by
    asking "Who's Barbara Walters?"
  13. 16 Sep '15 00:07 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Terrence Howard's belief that 1 x 1 = 2, not 1, is 'really daft' in *every context*.

    "(Terrence) Howard's account of his educational history (at Pratt Institute) has not been confirmed."
    --Wikipedia

    Terrence Howard was caught lying (or 'misremembering' ) when he claimed on television
    to have earned a PhD in chemical engineering from South Carolina ...[text shortened]... ended
    that university. Some of his fans may still prefer to believe his self-serving accounts.
    Actually within the context of his "reasoning" it's merely "daft".
  14. 16 Sep '15 22:48
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Vivify likes to bring up what American pop culture celebrities say or do and apparently
    presumes that everyone else should be similarly fascinated by these celebrities.

    As KazetNagorra and I have pointed out, Normbenign knows nothing about academic life.
    After Andrew Wiles completed the proof of Fermat's Last Theorem, he briefly became
    a pop culture ...[text shortened]... asked him for an exclusive interview; Andrew Wiles responded by
    asking "Who's Barbara Walters?"
    As KazetNagorra and I have pointed out, Normbenign knows nothing about academic life.

    Almost true. I did do a couple of years in an American community college, but found I learned far more on my own, than in classes with kids who didn't want to be there.

    By citing a single instance where an academic achieved an award, do you seek to contradict my observation that Americans, as well as others tend to know more athletes and actors than mathematicians. Probably they know more news anchors, and just new readers than mathematicians.
  15. 16 Sep '15 22:55
    Originally posted by Duchess64
    Some people like to quote American pop culture celebrities as though their
    (often ignorant or thoughtless) opinions on subjects beyond mass entertainment
    should be important.

    Terrence Howard is a 46 year old American actor and singer.
    He claims to have spent many hours creating a revolutionary new form
    of mathematics, named (modestly) 'Terryology'. ...[text shortened]... Tao on mathematics.
    Many more Americans seem to have heard of Terrence Howard than Terence Tao.
    interesting: 1x1 = 2x1
    can't figure that one out