There's talk of the US funding and building a missile system to protect Europe from a possible Nuclear attack from Iran. I say hell no to my money being spent there. Especially since we have received so much help from our European allies. Germany and France can but the technology from us and spend their money to build the system if they want it. Enough of my money being sent to ungrateful (allies)🙄 as the afore mentioned countries.
Originally posted by slimjimIran wouldn't target Europe, they would target Israel.
There's talk of the US funding and building a missile system to protect Europe from a possible Nuclear attack from Iran. I say hell no to my money being spent there. Especially since we have received so much help from our European allies. Germany and France can but the technology from us and spend their money to build the system if they want it. Enough of my money being sent to ungrateful (allies)🙄 as the afore mentioned countries.
Originally posted by FurorYeah you are probably right? I thought I was talking about some political hacks here in the US wanting to spend money building the system for the Europeans and me being against that? Are you saying we should fund such a project? Or was my question too "Jethro" for you?
Iran wouldn't target Europe, they would target Israel.
Originally posted by slimjimFor one thing, Israel can take care of itself, it already has the capability to kill Iran about 10 times over. Just remember, Tehran Pretty much IS Iran just like Tel Aviv pretty much IS Israel. So it would not take much bomb slinging to wipe them both out and Israel would surely retaliate with everything they have if such a scenario were to take place. Same with France and Germany except they have such a wide industrial base no single bomb would kill the country and they have more nuclear capablity than Israel so I don't think anyone needs protection from Iran in that department. If anything Israel could use an anti missle defense more than anyone else in the region just for the reason, you lose Tel Aviv, you lose Israel no matter what the retaliation.
Yeah you are probably right? I thought I was talking about some political hacks here in the US wanting to spend money building the system for the Europeans and me being against that? Are you saying we should fund such a project? Or was my question too "Jethro" for you?
Originally posted by slimjimThat really is a stupid idea. Do you have a link to an article about it? How did you hear about this?
There's talk of the US funding and building a missile system to protect Europe from a possible Nuclear attack from Iran. I say hell no to my money being spent there. Especially since we have received so much help from our European allies. Germany and France can but the technology from us and spend their money to build the system if they want it. Enough of my money being sent to ungrateful (allies)🙄 as the afore mentioned countries.
Originally posted by FurorIf Iran targets anybody, and actually fires anything at anyone, it'll be the last time they do so for the next 50 years. After that they'll be launching stuff with slingshots.
Iran wouldn't target Europe, they would target Israel.
As for Europe, I'll wait and see. I imagine the talk that slimjim mentions is coming from defense contractors looking to make a few billion on the old star wars system again (I haven't heard anything about this though). They can't stop salivating over that one. There's nothing better than a tax funded weapon that you can resell (or rent out) and make a profit on. Socialize the weapon, privatize the profit. Brilliant. Reagan must be laughing in his grave.
For those outside the US that may not remember the star wars defense system it was designed to shoot down missles before they could reach the US. Great idea IMO. Unfortunately the effectiveness of the thing left something to be desired. Of course I never did get a refund check from that for all of the BILLIONS the US taxpayers spent on it.
Somewhere there's the CEO of a defense contracting company having a drink on his yacht at my expense.
Originally posted by slimjimThe point is, such talk is only propaganda to reinforce the accusation that Tehran is trying to develop weapons grade uranium. It's not going to happen, because only "a few political hacks" would be stupid enough to vote for it, and then expect to get re-elected.
Yeah you are probably right? I thought I was talking about some political hacks here in the US wanting to spend money building the system for the Europeans and me being against that? Are you saying we should fund such a project? Or was my question too "Jethro" for you?
germany has no nukes, just pointing this out for those who think they could retaliate. europes nuclear members are england and france.
Also I would point out that a missle sheild breaks soooo many international anti-nuke treatise and would be very politically destableising. we don't want the sheild, whether you pay for it or not.
Originally posted by googlefudgelet alone the fact that it remains rather close to an unproven pipedream
germany has no nukes, just pointing this out for those who think they could retaliate. europes nuclear members are england and france.
Also I would point out that a missle sheild breaks soooo many international anti-nuke treatise and would be very politically destableising. we don't want the sheild, whether you pay for it or not.
This is not going to happen. I imagine it's somebody in the US who has no concept of a world outside their office who thinks it might be possible to make some money by selling the system to someone.
Europe would not have anything to do with a defence system that was likely controlled by the US. Furthermore, I imagine the majority of the European states recognize that the "Star Wars" project was a totally stupid idea right from the start.
Originally posted by wibYup.
If Iran targets anybody, and actually fires anything at anyone, it'll be the last time they do so for the next 50 years. After that they'll be launching stuff with slingshots.
Surely anyone planning an attack in this day and age would use subterfuge and terrorist tactics? Launching any missiles (especially nuclear) is surely a death warrant.
It isn't quite that simple allthough I agree that spending vast amounts of monney on weaponary is disgracefull, however there are a large number of big physics projects that were funded in the hope that they might produce weapons that did a lot of really good science (and no weapons). it's possible that the reasurch wouldn't have been done for it's reasurch value alone so the scientists suggested that better understanding of the way the world works could lead to bigger better weapons. which technically is true. just not on the kind of time scale they were hoping. technology is usually at least 50 years behind the leading theoretical physics, usually more.