Anyone here  a shortwave radio listener?

Anyone here a shortwave radio listener?

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MB

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@sonhouse said
@Metal-Brain
You WANT Putin to nuke the US and I guess you forgot the part where we would bomb the crap out of every big city and military base in Russia either.
That is how nuclear war works. That is the advantage of a first strike. You take out as many of their nukes you can before they use them on you.

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@sonhouse said
@Cliff-Mashburn
And of COURSE there would be no retaliation. You don't think they could track where the launches came from? Ever hear of that little device called RADAR?
Four nukes put in a low earth orbit would be easy to pass as normal weather satellites and could be coordinated to go off weeks or months later. All radio communications would be knocked out.
Our military would be sitting around in the dark just like everyone else, with all command and control gone.
Doesn't take much imagination.

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@Cliff-Mashburn
I guess you don't know a lot about orbital tracking, we track EVERYTHING more than the size of a toaster going into and obtaining an orbit and tracking every piece of it 24/7 so it will quickly be shown who blew the bombs. They will know for sure where the bombs were when they went off and there will be data in secret locations able to figure it all out even if the power grid is zero'd out.

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@Metal-Brain
And you would be dancing in the streets to see that happen for real.

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@sonhouse said
@Cliff-Mashburn
I guess you don't know a lot about orbital tracking, we track EVERYTHING more than the size of a toaster going into and obtaining an orbit and tracking every piece of it 24/7 so it will quickly be shown who blew the bombs. They will know for sure where the bombs were when they went off and there will be data in secret locations able to figure it all out even if the power grid is zero'd out.
I'm aware.
What you keep denying is that if it happens every electronic device as well as power station will be knocked out instantly.
Then what? Nobody will care if they know where they originated, it will be too late to do anything about it.
For that matter a huge solar flare like the 1860's Carrington Event would do it, then what?

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@sonhouse
If you don't keep a radio in a steel toolbox you might someday seek out anybody you think might be like me to find out what happened. Think about it.

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@Cliff-Mashburn
Not totally true. One advantage the Soviets had in their early fighter jets was using tubes instead of transistors, they just did not have the technology to make transistors so used tube electronics. The thing about tubes is they could care less about EMP pulses, unless maybe they are a mile away from a blast or such, if those fighter jets were in the air when a blast went off, if they were not blasted away being too close, the EMP would not disable those tubes.
I say that as an old ham, we have tube radios still and tube amplifiers, we are allowed 1.5 kilowatts of RF and it takes a significant RF amp to get that much power and I myself still have an old Collins KWM2A transceiver that works fine.
It would still work after an EMP blast.
Of course close enough and it gets fried by the heat and blast but in the suburbs 50 km away, the EMP pulse will not take out those old radio's.
I am not so sure a transistor transceiver would be zapped if it was in a good casing. If your rig was in a basement it might survive such an onslaught and the cases in today's top ham rigs are well protected with metal cases.
Those old Soviet era fighter jets would still fly and so would tube radios.

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