Originally posted by uzlessThe important thing is for people to stop spending money they don't actually have. When you max out all your credit cards, you end up spending LESS of your lifetime's earnings on the things you want, because a pretty nice chunk of your earnings gets wasted on interest rates and other fees - and you end up with all that stress that goes with having to pay off debts.
Nah, don't buy into the argument that says we need to spend spend spend as consumers.
Most economists have said americans, in particular, actually need to SAVE more than they are now. You can't save if you keep spending.
Originally posted by uzlessi'm in the high-income tax bracket. but what do i need a 40-inch TV for?
well if you are in a low income tax bracket then suck it up. Even a 5% tax hike in the lowest bracket amounts to only a few bux/day.
Stay outta the coffee shop, or only buy 1 pint at the pub instead of 2.
Regardless, Obama said he isn't raising taxes for your income bracket so stop crying about milk that won't even be spilled.
maybe someday i'll get a projector TV.
Originally posted by uzlesshahahaha! americans started saving, and since then the politicians have been BEGGING us to stop!
Nah, don't buy into the argument that says we need to spend spend spend as consumers.
Most economists have said americans, in particular, actually need to SAVE more than they are now. You can't save if you keep spending.
Originally posted by zeeblebotrich, like this guy, with a B.A. in history from Pomona College and an MBA from Stanford.
i don't really expect ever to become rich according to the new dot-com income levels, barring a lucky lottery ticket. i don't have an MBA or any kind of business degree.
but every year, i get a big tax bite. i can FEEL that.
and another thing. rich people are in control of their income. if the government taxes them more, they're not going to feel ...[text shortened]... ple. and the government is going to spend it on benefits for government workers, etc., etc.
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Originally posted by sh76That's not relevant here, I'm just saying that depending on the definition of those words, the impact on the economy will vary. Even if you would say "need" is what you need for survival, it could also imply abandoning all forms of luxury but investing in super-safe cars, infrastructure, investing heavily in science, etc.
Okay, how would you define them?
Originally posted by uzlessthere is that. hopefully, people have become tempered against all sorts of advertisements and blandishments by the constant drumbeat from madison avenue.
who said politicians were economists? And since when have you done what a politician tells you to do?
although, what explains Apple's high sales volume?
fresh-faced, apple-cheeked, incognisant teenagers?
Originally posted by KazetNagorraOf course it would vary. But any definition of "need" would leave out much of the World's commerce.
That's not relevant here, I'm just saying that depending on the definition of those words, the impact on the economy will vary. Even if you would say "need" is what you need for survival, it could also imply abandoning all forms of luxury but investing in super-safe cars, infrastructure, investing heavily in science, etc.
Originally posted by sh76Do we 'need' the way the world currently does its business though? Is there a third way? Not the failed fascist attempts at world domination that gave us communism. But a transition away from blinkered consumerism into a more holistic view of the planet and its peoples that require us all as global citizens to acknowledge each others existence and live accordingly?
Of course it would vary. But any definition of "need" would leave out much of the World's commerce.
Originally posted by kmax87In the abstract? Sure.
Do we 'need' the way the world currently does its business though? Is there a third way? Not the failed fascist attempts at world domination that gave us communism. But a transition away from blinkered consumerism into a more holistic view of the planet and its peoples that require us all as global citizens to acknowledge each others existence and live accordingly?
I have no idea how that sort of system would be administered, though.
Originally posted by kmax87google "rainbow children"
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