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  1. 05 Nov '13 08:29
    So what do posters thing about this? A reasonable protection for business interests against arbitrary state power? Or are we sleepwalking into international corporate oligarchy?

    This transatlantic trade deal is a full-frontal assault on democracy
    Brussels has kept quiet about a treaty that would let rapacious companies subvert our laws, rights and national sovereignty
    by George Monbiot

    Remember that referendum about whether we should create a single market with the United States? You know, the one that asked whether corporations should have the power to strike down our laws? No, I don't either. Mind you, I spent 10 minutes looking for my watch the other day before I realised I was wearing it. Forgetting about the referendum is another sign of ageing. Because there must have been one, mustn't there? After all that agonising over whether or not we should stay in the European Union, the government wouldn't cede our sovereignty to some shadowy, undemocratic body without consulting us. Would it?

    The purpose of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership is to remove the regulatory differences between the US and European nations. I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago. But I left out the most important issue: the remarkable ability it would grant big business to sue the living daylights out of governments which try to defend their citizens. It would allow a secretive panel of corporate lawyers to overrule the will of parliament and destroy our legal protections. Yet the defenders of our sovereignty say nothing.

    The mechanism through which this is achieved is known as investor-state dispute settlement. It's already being used in many parts of the world to kill regulations protecting people and the living planet.

    The Australian government, after massive debates in and out of parliament, decided that cigarettes should be sold in plain packets, marked only with shocking health warnings. The decision was validated by the Australian supreme court. But, using a trade agreement Australia struck with Hong Kong, the tobacco company Philip Morris has asked an offshore tribunal to award it a vast sum in compensation for the loss of what it calls its intellectual property.

    During its financial crisis, and in response to public anger over rocketing charges, Argentina imposed a freeze on people's energy and water bills (does this sound familiar?). It was sued by the international utility companies whose vast bills had prompted the government to act. For this and other such crimes, it has been forced to pay out over a billion dollars in compensation. In El Salvador, local communities managed at great cost (three campaigners were murdered) to persuade the government to refuse permission for a vast gold mine which threatened to contaminate their water supplies. A victory for democracy? Not for long, perhaps. The Canadian company which sought to dig the mine is now suing El Salvador for $315m – for the loss of its anticipated future profits.

    In Canada, the courts revoked two patents owned by the American drugs firm Eli Lilly, on the grounds that the company had not produced enough evidence that they had the beneficial effects it claimed. Eli Lilly is now suing the Canadian government for $500m, and demanding that Canada's patent laws are changed.

    These companies (along with hundreds of others) are using the investor-state dispute rules embedded in trade treaties signed by the countries they are suing. The rules are enforced by panels which have none of the safeguards we expect in our own courts. The hearings are held in secret. The judges are corporate lawyers, many of whom work for companies of the kind whose cases they hear. Citizens and communities affected by their decisions have no legal standing. There is no right of appeal on the merits of the case. Yet they can overthrow the sovereignty of parliaments and the rulings of supreme courts.

    You don't believe it? Here's what one of the judges on these tribunals says about his work. "When I wake up at night and think about arbitration, it never ceases to amaze me that sovereign states have agreed to investment arbitration at all ... Three private individuals are entrusted with the power to review, without any restriction or appeal procedure, all actions of the government, all decisions of the courts, and all laws and regulations emanating from parliament."

    There are no corresponding rights for citizens. We can't use these tribunals to demand better protections from corporate greed. As the Democracy Centre says, this is "a privatised justice system for global corporations".

    Even if these suits don't succeed, they can exert a powerful chilling effect on legislation. One Canadian government official, speaking about the rules introduced by the North American Free Trade Agreement, remarked: "I've seen the letters from the New York and DC law firms coming up to the Canadian government on virtually every new environmental regulation and proposition in the last five years. They involved dry-cleaning chemicals, pharmaceuticals, pesticides, patent law. Virtually all of the new initiatives were targeted and most of them never saw the light of day." Democracy, as a meaningful proposition, is impossible under these circumstances.

    This is the system to which we will be subject if the transatlantic treaty goes ahead. The US and the European commission, both of which have been captured by the corporations they are supposed to regulate, are pressing for investor-state dispute resolution to be included in the agreement.

    The commission justifies this policy by claiming that domestic courts don't offer corporations sufficient protection because they "might be biased or lack independence". Which courts is it talking about? Those of the US? Its own member states? It doesn't say. In fact it fails to produce a single concrete example demonstrating the need for a new, extrajudicial system. It is precisely because our courts are generally not biased or lacking independence that the corporations want to bypass them. The EC seeks to replace open, accountable, sovereign courts with a closed, corrupt system riddled with conflicts of interest and arbitrary powers.

    Investor-state rules could be used to smash any attempt to save the NHS from corporate control, to re-regulate the banks, to curb the greed of the energy companies, to renationalise the railways, to leave fossil fuels in the ground. These rules shut down democratic alternatives. They outlaw leftwing politics.

    This is why there has been no attempt by the UK government to inform us about this monstrous assault on democracy, let alone consult us. This is why the Conservatives who huff and puff about sovereignty are silent. Wake up, people we're being shafted.
  2. Standard member bill718
    Enigma
    05 Nov '13 09:15
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    So what do posters thing about this? A reasonable protection for business interests against arbitrary state power? Or are we sleepwalking into international corporate oligarchy?

    [b]This transatlantic trade deal is a full-frontal assault on democracy

    [i]Brussels has kept quiet about a treaty that would let rapacious companies subvert our laws, right ...[text shortened]... nservatives who huff and puff about sovereignty are silent. Wake up, people we're being shafted.[/b]
    Corporations hire teams of lawyers to research national and international law before doing the things you describe. Are they exempt? I don't think so, but I'd ask someone like sh76. He has a law degree I think.
  3. 05 Nov '13 17:29
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    So what do posters thing about this? A reasonable protection for business interests against arbitrary state power? Or are we sleepwalking into international corporate oligarchy?

    [b]This transatlantic trade deal is a full-frontal assault on democracy

    [i]Brussels has kept quiet about a treaty that would let rapacious companies subvert our laws, right ...[text shortened]... nservatives who huff and puff about sovereignty are silent. Wake up, people we're being shafted.[/b]
    Of course they are not. Their teams of lawyers, usually the best and brightest, look for national laws favorable to them and their operations.
    Some national governments, usually the most powerful, try to organize to their advantage, but even smaller nations that enjoy particular resources get into the organizing game, via laws and treaties.
  4. 05 Nov '13 17:34
    The article you cite does not discuss exempting corporation from national law. It sets a procedure where a corporations view can be considered. We can argue about the exact details but it does seem to me that international corporations should have an opportunity to certain protections and that nations should not be able to simple seize their assets or prevent them from doing business without the corporation having an opportunity to have their views being heard.
  5. 05 Nov '13 20:04 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by Teinosuke
    So what do posters thing about this? A reasonable protection for business interests against arbitrary state power? Or are we sleepwalking into international corporate oligarchy?

    [b]This transatlantic trade deal is a full-frontal assault on democracy

    [i]Brussels has kept quiet about a treaty that would let rapacious companies subvert our laws, right ...[text shortened]... nservatives who huff and puff about sovereignty are silent. Wake up, people we're being shafted.[/b]
    Anything that usurps national sovereignty will be supported by globalists and collectivists around the globe.

    Welcome to hell.

    Collectivism destroys democracy and only leads to tyranny. You can see this within the EU. Now you have distant powers telling you what to do and how to live, people you have no way of voting for or against. There is now no way out either. It's like joining the mob, the only way out is 6 feet under.

    Here in the US we have an army of bureaucrats who are not elected, passing regulations left and right that are just as good as laws made by Congress.
  6. 06 Nov '13 01:23
    They make the laws.
  7. 06 Nov '13 06:29
    Originally posted by normbenign
    Of course they are not. Their teams of lawyers, usually the best and brightest, look for national laws favorable to them and their operations.
    Some national governments, usually the most powerful, try to organize to their advantage, but even smaller nations that enjoy particular resources get into the organizing game, via laws and treaties.
    Did you actually read the article? Do you have any comments on what appears to be a systematic attempt to place corporations above the law?