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Are jobs obsolete?

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http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/09/07/rushkoff.jobs.obsolete/index.html?iref=NS1

Thought provoking article.

The U.S. Postal Service appears to be the latest casualty in digital technology's slow but steady replacement of working humans. Unless an external source of funding comes in, the post office will have to scale back its operations drastically, or simply shut down altogether. That's 600,000 people who would be out of work, and another 480,000 pensioners facing an adjustment in terms.

We can blame a right wing attempting to undermine labor, or a left wing trying to preserve unions in the face of government and corporate cutbacks. But the real culprit -- at least in this case -- is e-mail. People are sending 22% fewer pieces of mail than they did four years ago, opting for electronic bill payment and other net-enabled means of communication over envelopes and stamps.

New technologies are wreaking havoc on employment figures -- from EZpasses ousting toll collectors to Google-controlled self-driving automobiles rendering taxicab drivers obsolete. Every new computer program is basically doing some task that a person used to do. But the computer usually does it faster, more accurately, for less money, and without any health insurance costs.

We like to believe that the appropriate response is to train humans for higher level work. Instead of collecting tolls, the trained worker will fix and program toll-collecting robots. But it never really works out that way, since not as many people are needed to make the robots as the robots replace.
And so the president goes on television telling us that the big issue of our time is jobs, jobs, jobs -- as if the reason to build high-speed rails and fix bridges is to put people back to work. But it seems to me there's something backwards in that logic. I find myself wondering if we may be accepting a premise that deserves to be questioned.

I am afraid to even ask this, but since when is unemployment really a problem? I understand we all want paychecks -- or at least money. We want food, shelter, clothing, and all the things that money buys us. But do we all really want jobs?
We're living in an economy where productivity is no longer the goal, employment is. That's because, on a very fundamental level, we have pretty much everything we need. America is productive enough that it could probably shelter, feed, educate, and even provide health care for its entire population with just a fraction of us actually working.

According to the U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization, there is enough food produced to provide everyone in the world with 2,720 kilocalories per person per day. And that's even after America disposes of thousands of tons of crop and dairy just to keep market prices high. Meanwhile, American banks overloaded with foreclosed properties are demolishing vacant dwellings to get the empty houses off their books.

Our problem is not that we don't have enough stuff -- it's that we don't have enough ways for people to work and prove that they deserve this stuff.
Jobs, as such, are a relatively new concept. People may have always worked, but until the advent of the corporation in the early Renaissance, most people just worked for themselves. They made shoes, plucked chickens, or created value in some way for other people, who then traded or paid for those goods and services. By the late Middle Ages, most of Europe was thriving under this arrangement.

The only ones losing wealth were the aristocracy, who depended on their titles to extract money from those who worked. And so they invented the chartered monopoly. By law, small businesses in most major industries were shut down and people had to work for officially sanctioned corporations instead. From then on, for most of us, working came to mean getting a "job."

The Industrial Age was largely about making those jobs as menial and unskilled as possible. Technologies such as the assembly line were less important for making production faster than for making it cheaper, and laborers more replaceable. Now that we're in the digital age, we're using technology the same way: to increase efficiency, lay off more people, and increase corporate profits.

While this is certainly bad for workers and unions, I have to wonder just how truly bad is it for people. Isn't this what all this technology was for in the first place? The question we have to begin to ask ourselves is not how do we employ all the people who are rendered obsolete by technology, but how can we organize a society around something other than employment? Might the spirit of enterprise we currently associate with "career" be shifted to something entirely more collaborative, purposeful, and even meaningful?

Instead, we are attempting to use the logic of a scarce marketplace to negotiate things that are actually in abundance. What we lack is not employment, but a way of fairly distributing the bounty we have generated through our technologies, and a way of creating meaning in a world that has already produced far too much stuff.
The communist answer to this question was just to distribute everything evenly. But that sapped motivation and never quite worked as advertised. The opposite, libertarian answer (and the way we seem to be going right now) would be to let those who can't capitalize on the bounty simply suffer. Cut social services along with their jobs, and hope they fade into the distance.

But there might still be another possibility -- something we couldn't really imagine for ourselves until the digital era. As a pioneer of virtual reality, Jaron Lanier, recently pointed out, we no longer need to make stuff in order to make money. We can instead exchange information-based products.

We start by accepting that food and shelter are basic human rights. The work we do -- the value we create -- is for the rest of what we want: the stuff that makes life fun, meaningful, and purposeful.

This sort of work isn't so much employment as it is creative activity. Unlike Industrial Age employment, digital production can be done from the home, independently, and even in a peer-to-peer fashion without going through big corporations. We can make games for each other, write books, solve problems, educate and inspire one another -- all through bits instead of stuff. And we can pay one another using the same money we use to buy real stuff.

For the time being, as we contend with what appears to be a global economic slowdown by destroying food and demolishing homes, we might want to stop thinking about jobs as the main aspect of our lives that we want to save. They may be a means, but they are not the ends.

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No, jobs aren't obsolete. There is plenty of useful stuff to do instead of working in a factory.

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Hmmm, so I can do nothing and live for free (because food and shelter are human rights), but if I want an iPhone I've got to actually do something.

Somehow I don't think that's going to work.

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Not yet, but I think we've reached the point where we need to think how we can structure society around something more flexible than a rigid dichotomy of employment/unemployment. On the surface, it seems very inefficient to insist on full time jobs and a relatively large unemployment rate. For both parties involved (employed and unemployed).

We see now in the Netherlands how many women are able to make a choice of part-time employment, purely because they can have more free time (many are single, with no kids). This seems like something I would like to see more of, although the problem is that in many places employment status still plays such a large role that it undermines some of that flexibility that would be beneficial to all IMO.


Originally posted by sh76
http://www.cnn.com/2011/OPINION/09/07/rushkoff.jobs.obsolete/index.html?iref=NS1
* shrug *

Mechanical dog bites man.

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In the worst unemployment areas of the United States, typically inner city ghettos, the complaint I hear most often is that competent and ambitious workers can't be found to do routine jobs like cutting grass, or clearing snow.

I think that jobs, in the sense of jobs that are there for a career, and provide health care, retirement, without risk, and to a large extent without work are going, going, gone.

There will always be people who want stuff done. A lot of the stuff we are asking government to do, can and likely will be done by the private sector and by individuals first.

Three or four decades ago, many homes were being built without adequate insulation and ventilation. Upgrading these homes is a growing improvement business, as is infrared thermography, and offshoot of FLIR a military technology, which can positively show a homeowner where his heat is going, and how to keep more of it inside.

In the past, it was large corporations and government entities which delivered services to people. More and more, it will be individuals, and smaller companies which are more tuned in to local and regional desires and needs.

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If jobs are obsolete, so is rent.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
If jobs are obsolete, so is rent.
I think both are with us for the forseeable future.

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Well, in theory improvements in productivity should benefit human beings. We should be paid based upon our output, so any improvements in productivity due to technological advances should amount to reduced hours for the same amount of pay.

But we aren't there yet.

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Originally posted by Kunsoo
Well, in theory improvements in productivity should benefit human beings. We should be paid based upon our output, so any improvements in productivity due to technological advances should amount to reduced hours for the same amount of pay.

But we aren't there yet.
What theory claims that productivity and pay are related in such a way?

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Originally posted by Sleepyguy
Hmmm, so I can do nothing and live for free (because food and shelter are human rights), but if I want an iPhone I've got to actually do something.

Somehow I don't think that's going to work.
Landlords won't allow it to happen. Their wealth depends on forcing people to pay rent

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
What theory claims that productivity and pay are related in such a way?
My theory. You are supposedly paid for the value of your labor. If your labor is more productive, it is more valuable.

It's more of a moral theory than an economic one. Economic theories are mostly morally bereft.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
What theory claims that productivity and pay are related in such a way?
Never mind theory. How about historic fact. When Henry Ford introduced the assembly line he more than doubled the daily pay of his workers.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Landlords won't allow it to happen. Their wealth depends on forcing people to pay rent
Landlords can't force rent payments. That's why they have to evict deadbeats, who typically trash the property.

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Originally posted by normbenign
Never mind theory. How about historic fact. When Henry Ford introduced the assembly line he more than doubled the daily pay of his workers.
How much more do workers get paid when robot assembly lines are introduced?