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Who can comment on the article in USCF's cover story about online cheating? Says what a win/draw ratio greater than 60% is suspect. Thoughts??

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can you quote it for reference?

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Originally posted by Palimpsest
Who can comment on the article in USCF's cover story about online cheating? Says what a win/draw ratio greater than 60% is suspect. Thoughts??
please give us a link straight to the article, or even better paste it in

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is there an echo in here?😲

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is there an echo in here?😲

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I win about 62 percent and am rated in the 1400's... go figure.

I never was a good cheat!

P-



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I win about 58 percent and am rated in the 1600's... go figure.

I never was a cheat!

f-

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I'm about 60% and in the 1500's..

tsk tsk tsk

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Does this percentage not relate to the average player you are playing against ...

For example ...

If I'd played the top 20 here (and throw in a few IM and GM's to make it more fun)... I'm sure I ain't anywhere near 60% (Probably closer to 10% if not less) ...

But if you put me up against say 100 games against an average rating of 1000 I'm confident that I'll be way above 60% without cheating ...

Regards

The Slow Pawn

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Yeah, exactly.

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I just checked my last 20 games from my graph and average 1366.

11421
21374
31382
41322
51603
61336
71563
81440
91271
101480
111472
121183
131474
141124
151298
161313
171286
181346
191326
201301

I'll need to step that up a bit....

P-

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yeah! stop being suck a chicken *bokbokbokbok*

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Originally posted by Palimpsest
Who can comment on the article in USCF's cover story about online cheating? Says what a win/draw ratio greater than 60% is suspect. Thoughts??
Good artical but I don't know if it would appy here because of the way we calculate ratings. Also, for live and OTB rated tournaments, you generally play in your own rating class. Here, you can play anybody so your win/loose rations may be dramaticly different from one player to the next. And the top 10 players would have a lower win/lose ratio if they only played the top 10 players.

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Originally posted by Palimpsest
Who can comment on the article in USCF's cover story about online cheating? Says what a win/draw ratio greater than 60% is suspect. Thoughts??
I believe if I read it right that is correct. I have done some anylizing of some of the masters games Kasper, fisher etc. and in their games there are mistakes made in every game or missed better moves. This does not happen with computers (that I have found) as they are set up to make the best move in a given situation. I am playing a game with Trav, the chessmaster against the winboard and when I anylize it, it does not recomend better moves or missed opportunities. You could never catch people at it uless you are standing behind them, but you could get a pretty good Idea of who is using and who is not. just anylize the games. No mistakes in a sampling of games, and it is probobly a computer. The artical also went on to say that there is software that can be used by the admins that will enable them to see if an engine is in use during games.

Mike

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Originally posted by rapalla7
I believe if I read it right that is correct. I have done some anylizing of some of the masters games Kasper, fisher etc. and in their games there are mistakes made in every game or missed better moves. This does not happen with computers (that I have found) as they are set up to make the best move in a given situation. I am playing a game with Trav, the ...[text shortened]... e used by the admins that will enable them to see if an engine is in use during games.

Mike
I win about 50% of the time.
Does this mean I should buy a better computer?