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@mott-the-hoople saidThe powers of a speaker Pro Tem are limited. They are not allowed to fulfill all the duties of a duly elected speaker.
did you get lockjaw mchill?
Your attempt to sidestep this GOP embarrassment is duly noted. 😏
@mott-the-hoople saidA Speaker Pro Tem has whatever powers the House wants to grant him (within the limits of the Constitution of course):
have you read the law?
"“Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings,”
US Constitution, Article I, Section 5
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-members-discuss-lifting-limits-on-speaker-pro-tem-power/ar-AA1i7pWr
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@no1marauder said“ A Speaker Pro Tem has whatever powers the House wants to grant him ”
A Speaker Pro Tem has whatever powers the House wants to grant him (within the limits of the Constitution of course):
"“Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings,”
US Constitution, Article I, Section 5
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-members-discuss-lifting-limits-on-speaker-pro-tem-power/ar-AA1i7pWr
the LAW doesnt state that
what “limits” were on the speaker pro tem?
@mott-the-hoople saidWhat "law"?
“ A Speaker Pro Tem has whatever powers the House wants to grant him ”
the LAW doesnt state that
what “limits” were on the speaker pro tem?
It doesn't exist; the Constitution clearly gives each House of the Legislative Branch the power to make their own rules. They could select the Speaker by eeny meeny miny moe if the majority chose to.
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@no1marauder saidSurley you have heard of parliamentary law, what with you being a lawyer and all.
What "law"?
It doesn't exist; the Constitution clearly gives each House of the Legislative Branch the power to make their own rules. They could select the Speaker by eeny meeny miny moe if the majority chose to.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/[WORD TOO LONG]
(3)(A) In the case of a vacancy in the office of speaker, the next member on the list described in subdivision (B) shall act as speaker pro tempore until the election of a Speaker or a Speaker Pro tempore. Pending such election the member acting as Speaker Pro tempore may exercise such authorities of the office of Speaker as may be necessary and appropriate to that end.
https://rules.house.gov/sites/republicans.rules118.house.gov/files/documents/Rules%20and%20Resources/118-House-Rules-Clerk.pdf
Democrats are angry the speaker pro tempore kicked pelosi and hoyer out of their party offices and are trying to limit the power of the speaker pro tempore, that is all.
and you are right, the house can make their own rules/laws (semantics)...and they did.
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Big picture, is it important to have an elected Speaker of the House? You know, for normal government functions?
Is it important to pass a budget? Congress doesn't even try to do that.
Is it important to get immigration crises under control? Congress doesn't try.
Is it important for Congress to pass any laws, or do anything to respond to numerous ongoing crises?
Do we just pretend it's OK that Congress doesn't do anything Mott? You seem to blame Demon-rats for this, even though Republicans are supposed to be in charge. You're an apologist.
@wildgrass said“You know, for normal government functions?”
Big picture, is it important to have an elected Speaker of the House? You know, for normal government functions?
Is it important to pass a budget? Congress doesn't even try to do that.
Is it important to get immigration crises under control? Congress doesn't try.
Is it important for Congress to pass any laws, or do anything to respond to numerous ongoing crises?
...[text shortened]... lame Demon-rats for this, even though Republicans are supposed to be in charge. You're an apologist.
read the law dumbass
this law was created for continuity of gov in case something happens to the speaker. The pro Tem has the full power of a speaker, nothing in the law specifies the he doesnt. Actually it would defeat the purpose of the law if the speakers powers were limited.
@mott-the-hoople saidWhy aren't they doing their jobs?
“You know, for normal government functions?”
read the law dumbass
this law was created for continuity of gov in case something happens to the speaker. The pro Tem has the full power of a speaker, nothing in the law specifies the he doesnt. Actually it would defeat the purpose of the law if the speakers powers were limited.
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Consider the top pick for speaker of the house has been in Congress for 16 years, collecting $2.5 million in government paychecks. In that time, he has not written any legislation. None of his cosponsored bills have passed.
Energy, immigration, crime, homelessness. Nothing, nothing, nothing, nothing.
He does tweet a lot, and complain a lot. But Jim Jordan has not done a single consequential thing in 16 years.
Great work. Let's reward laziness with a promotion.
@wildgrass saidtheir job is to write law (among other duties), it is biden that must enforce those laws, and he isnt doing it.
Why aren't they doing their jobs?
@mott-the-hoople saidThat's BS. You pretend the executive branch has unchecked power. Immigration laws written by Congress are sometimes hundreds of years old, in obvious need for revision based on the current crisis. Congress is mute, hamstrung by ineptitude and indifference. It seems from your comments that the voters don't care if they do their job or not.
their job is to write law (among other duties), it is biden that must enforce those laws, and he isnt doing it.
@mott-the-hoople saidLMAO! That's not a "law", you dumbass. Read the very top of the first page:
Surley you have heard of parliamentary law, what with you being a lawyer and all.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/[WORD TOO LONG]
[b](3)(A) In the case of a vacancy in the office of speake ...[text shortened]... at is all.
and you are right, the house can make their own rules/laws (semantics)...and they did.
"Rules of the House of Representatives".
@no1marauder saidyou really should broaden your vocabulary
LMAO! That's not a "law", you dumbass. Read the very top of the first page:
"Rules of the House of Representatives".
Law;
a
(1)
: a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed (see PRESCRIBE sense 1a) or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority
(2)
: the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law
@mott-the-hoople saidI don't use imprecise language even if Merriam-Webster wants to dumb it down for people like you.
you really should broaden your vocabulary
Law;
a
(1)
: a binding custom or practice of a community : a rule of conduct or action prescribed (see PRESCRIBE sense 1a) or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority
(2)
: the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/law
The Constitution distinguishes between "laws" passed by both Houses of Congress and "rules" made by each House binding only on itself.