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Kevin Eleven

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What are the objections?

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Most 18 year olds will pass a background check for one.

A few of the shooters wouldn't have but most will.

Also, if they fail a background check they can just buy an illegal gun off the street.

Or they will use a truck and run you over 🤷

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@capacrapa said
Most 18 year olds will pass a background check for one.

A few of the shooters wouldn't have but most will.
Can't buy a beer, or a pack of cigarettes,
only an AR-15.

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@capacrapa said
Most 18 year olds will pass a background check for one.

A few of the shooters wouldn't have but most will.

Also, if they fail a background check they can just buy an illegal gun off the street.

Or they will use a truck and run you over 🤷
It's hard to go into buildings with a truck

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@athousandyoung said
It's hard to go into buildings with a truck
Good point....
TRUCKS DON'T KILL PEOPLE......
Remember, when trucks are outlawed,
only outlaws will have trucks.
....... 😆 😆

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@capacrapa said
Most 18 year olds will pass a background check for one.

A few of the shooters wouldn't have but most will.

Also, if they fail a background check they can just buy an illegal gun off the street.

Or they will use a truck and run you over 🤷
''............A few of the shooters wouldn't have but most will........''.
Well, we know a few of these shooters would have
been denied with a simple background check.
Ya' gotta' start somewhere, this is getting to be a weekly thing.
Gun violence IS THE LEADING CAUSE of CHILDHOOD DEATH in U.S.A.
How can any thinking person be against a simple background check?

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#1 move the age to 21 for all guns. (maybe ?) I can't see a high school student owning an ar-15
#2 a license for an ar-15 or any automatic will be a different license much like a universal
driver's license for truckers where the testing/requirements are very stiff.

There are things they can do without violating the 2nd amendment, IMO

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@earl-of-trumps said
#1 move the age to 21 for all guns. (maybe ?) I can't see a high school student owning an ar-15
#2 a license for an ar-15 or any automatic will be a different license much like a universal
driver's license for truckers where the testing/requirements are very stiff.

There are things they can do without violating the 2nd amendment, IMO
Those examples EXACTLY what
most people are suggesting.
Simple safeguards.
You can't point out ANYONE who is
saying otherwise.

Kevin Eleven

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@earl-of-trumps said
#1 move the age to 21 for all guns. (maybe ?) I can't see a high school student owning an ar-15
#2 a license for an ar-15 or any automatic will be a different license much like a universal
driver's license for truckers where the testing/requirements are very stiff.

There are things they can do without violating the 2nd amendment, IMO
This is so obvious that it's amazing something like that has not been enacted yet. Therefore my OP. Wondering about the years of dodging and resistance by those who could make it happen.

A suggested modification: I'm not a mental-health expert or well-read on the subject, but when early-onset schizophrenia occurs in guys, it happens in late teens or early 20s, so maybe the age should be moved to 25 or so for guys (also to screen for alcoholism).

This doesn't seem to be the case for women (corrections welcome) so maybe for women, age 21 would be okay for gun ownership.

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@kevin-eleven said
This is so obvious that it's amazing something like that has not been enacted yet. Therefore my OP. Wondering about the years of dodging and resistance by those who could make it happen.

A suggested modification: I'm not a mental-health expert or well-read on the subject, but when early-onset schizophrenia occurs in guys, it happens in late teens or early 20s, so mayb ...[text shortened]... the case for women (corrections welcome) so maybe for women, age 21 would be okay for gun ownership.
Can't do the different age thing (unconstitutional) but,
the 25 year old requirement makes sense to me.

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@jimm619 said
Those examples EXACTLY what
most people are suggesting.
Simple safeguards.
You can't point out ANYONE who is
saying otherwise.
The problem is when someone meets those guidelines and still shoots up a school yall gonna ask for more laws and restrictions.

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@capacrapa said
The problem is when someone meets those guidelines and still shoots up a school yall gonna ask for more laws and restrictions.
It's not as if we're going to dictate which decorative lights you can or cannot string up on Canasta Night!

Kevin Eleven

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@capacrapa said
The problem is when someone meets those guidelines and still shoots up a school yall gonna ask for more laws and restrictions.
Yeah, probably.

What are you afraid of? That you would not be allowed to mow down a bunch of people with your new AR and hundreds of rounds of ammo?

Or are you afraid of preventive policing: e.g., putting some young guy down like a rabid dog based on evidence he is planning a mass murder? (see also: Atticus Finch).

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@capacrapa said
The problem is when someone meets those guidelines and still shoots up a school yall gonna ask for more laws and restrictions.
Given that you seem to be Canadian, how would that be a problem for you, and how is it any of your damn business?

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@capacrapa said
The problem is when someone meets those guidelines and still shoots up a school yall gonna ask for more laws and restrictions.
Now you can predict the future?
Let's go to the race track.

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