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a debate by the 'usual suspects'
look guys you are fooling on one... its because he is BLACK..just say it..... stop pretending..ok...

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Originally posted by spurs73
a debate by the 'usual suspects'
look guys you are fooling on one... its because he is BLACK..just say it..... stop pretending..ok...

😉😛
You seem have a large chip on your, presumaby black, shoulder.

No, it's not because Obama is 'black' (in fact he is coffee coloured) but because he does not appear to be up to scratch for the job, any more than does Mrs. Clinton.
I would prefer to vote for Condelezza Rice than either of them if I were a citizen of the USA.

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Originally posted by omega1000
I would prefer to vote for Condelezza Rice than either of them if I were a citizen of the USA.
I've heard a LOT of people saying the same thing.

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Originally posted by spurs73
a debate by the 'usual suspects'
look guys you are fooling on one... its because he is BLACK..just say it..... stop pretending..ok...

😉😛
I've seen slimjim say here on the forums he was planning to vote for Obama. So no, this isn't about color.

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If Obama is elected, don't cry when you see Jeremiah Wright leading convocations in the White House and ranting on, there's something we can all look forward to. Maybe he'll even be appointed the congressional chaplain (if the position still exists). Peter Marshall he ain't.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
If Obama is elected, don't cry when you see Jeremiah Wright leading convocations in the White House and ranting on, there's something we can all look forward to. Maybe he'll even be appointed the congressional chaplain (if the position still exists). Peter Marshall he ain't.
so what has mr.wright said that you object to soo much. I thought he made some very good points..which you guys should be debating

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Originally posted by omega1000
You seem have a large chip on your, presumaby black, shoulder.

No, it's not because Obama is 'black' (in fact he is coffee coloured) but because he does not appear to be up to scratch for the job, any more than does Mrs. Clinton.
I would prefer to vote for Condelezza Rice than either of them if I were a citizen of the USA.
listen Bogel, you live in the UK so you wont be doing any voting in the US elections..OK!

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Originally posted by spurs73
so what has mr.wright said that you object to soo much. I thought he made some very good points..which you guys should be debating
Such as?

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Controversial Jeremiah Wright quotes from a hostile source:

“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.”

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.” (Sep 2001)

“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people. God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.” (2003)

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.” (magazine article)

“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!…We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.” (sermon)

“Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people. Hillary would never know that. Hillary ain’t never been called a nigger. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”

“Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.” (sermon)

“The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

http://bumpshack.com/2008/03/18/pastor-jeremiah-wright-controversy-quotes/

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Originally posted by spurs73
so what has mr.wright said that you object to soo much. I thought he made some very good points..which you guys should be debating
A quick Rasmeussen poll found that only 8% of Americans believe his points have any validity..... I assume they are the MoveOn.org/Daily KOS crowd...

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Such as?
Please see ATY's post..... I agree with all those points.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Controversial Jeremiah Wright quotes from a hostile source:

“We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.”

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done ...[text shortened]... e of Zionism.”

http://bumpshack.com/2008/03/18/pastor-jeremiah-wright-controversy-quotes/
Jebus. Anyone who doesn't find this "Reverend" offensive must be unconcious. The thought of our next president being witness to his rantings and remaining a member of the church is intolerable.

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Originally posted by spurs73
Please see ATY's post..... I agree with all those points.
Then you are beyond help.

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Originally posted by Sam The Sham
Then you are beyond help.
i see..ok lets look at his points one by one... first..

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye.”


TRUE or NOT?