"Bettie Page, one of the most famous US pin-up models of the 1950s, has died in Los Angeles, aged 85. Her provocative poses - often in bikinis - made her a cult figure and she was one of the first models to appear in Playboy magazine. Bettie Page was credited with helping to pave the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/americas/7778963.stm
Bettie Page was credited with helping to pave the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s? Oh yeah? What if one begged to differ and say that Bettie Page did more harm to the cause of women than good?
Any thoughts?
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Originally posted by PalynkaYes. Her contributions to Bizarre magazine alone enriched the lives of -- however many readers there were of Bizarre. Pity it's gone downhill since then.
Then I would beg to differ.
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http://jahsonic.wordpress.com/2008/12/12/bettie-page-1923-2008/
http://the-infectious-bettie-page.blogspot.com
Originally posted by FMFShe was not proud of her sexy pictures, from what I understand.
"Bettie Page, one of the most famous US pin-up models of the 1950s, has died in Los Angeles, aged 85. Her provocative poses - often in bikinis - made her a cult figure and she was one of the first models to appear in Playboy magazine. Bettie Page was credited with helping to pave the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s."
Rest of the sotory here:
http: ...[text shortened]... iffer and say that Bettie Page did more harm to the cause of women than good?
Any thoughts?
Originally posted by FMFAny thoughts?
"Bettie Page, one of the most famous US pin-up models of the 1950s, has died in Los Angeles, aged 85. Her provocative poses - often in bikinis - made her a cult figure and she was one of the first models to appear in Playboy magazine. Bettie Page was credited with helping to pave the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s."
Rest of the sotory here:
http: ...[text shortened]... iffer and say that Bettie Page did more harm to the cause of women than good?
Any thoughts?
Back in her day, Ida in a nanosecond, my friend. In a nanosecond.
Originally posted by FMFIf she had been required to wear a burka, she wouldn't have been able to cause the vast harm to the cause of women that your beg to differing supposes.
"Bettie Page, one of the most famous US pin-up models of the 1950s, has died in Los Angeles, aged 85. Her provocative poses - often in bikinis - made her a cult figure and she was one of the first models to appear in Playboy magazine. Bettie Page was credited with helping to pave the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s."
Rest of the sotory here:
http: ...[text shortened]... iffer and say that Bettie Page did more harm to the cause of women than good?
Any thoughts?
Originally posted by no1marauderI take your point. But what if the Bettie Pages of this world are helping to prolong the burka-requirement-thing.
If she had been required to wear a burka, she wouldn't have been able to cause the vast harm to the cause of women that your beg to differing supposes.
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Originally posted by FMFMy thinking is that Playboy was far more influential than merely one of its models. I read the same quote and disagree with it.
"Bettie Page, one of the most famous US pin-up models of the 1950s, has died in Los Angeles, aged 85. Her provocative poses - often in bikinis - made her a cult figure and she was one of the first models to appear in Playboy magazine. Bettie Page was credited with helping to pave the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s."
Rest of the sotory here:
http: ...[text shortened]... iffer and say that Bettie Page did more harm to the cause of women than good?
Any thoughts?
Now the porn industry, what with her light bondage pictures? You could make a case on her influence upon modern day porn.
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Originally posted by FMFOriginally posted by no1marauder
I take your point. But what if the Bettie Pages of this world are helping to prolong the burka-requirement-thing.
Yes, they have a lot of influence over 1400 year old religious practices. Bikini models are also responsible for there not being woman Catholic priests, ya know.
Again, I take your point. But I think I am coming at this from a different angle. Where I am in the world, the jilbab and burka are still ubiquitous. Here, in pragmatic terms, "the cause of women" includes things like promoting participation in decision making at the village level, reducing domestic violence, and various things related to the exercising of some control over the provison of education and health. And there has been a lot of progress: women empowered by education and economic autonomy reaching out to, and helping, fellow women who are essentially victims of a profoundly conservative male dominated way of life.
However these things (participation, autonomy, empowerment), and the men and women who promote them, are often framed - and smeared - by conservative men here, as being wicked, morally corrosive, alien things 'intruding' from the world that Bettie Pages comes from and proof positive that modernity must be rejected and expunged at all costs. It's a pity. Forward progress is so often obstructed.
And this predominantly Muslim country I live in has its own Bettie Pages of course and we see backlashes all the time. Indeed, women here fighting the burka-requirement-thing (and all it represents) do not really feel they have common cause with indigenous Bettie Pages, let alone western Bettie Pages. To me personally, and to almost all women I know working for the 'cause of women', the the struggle for increased participation, autonomy and empowerment of women, rather outweighs the "value" of the Bettie Page thing and its rather questionable contribution to meaningful "liberation".
I wouldn't dream of denying the Bettie Pages of this world their rights - nor the rights of men to fantasize about her or the rights of women to emulate her - but from where I stand I see the Bettie Pages doing more harm than good to the "cause of women". Indeed, in the struggle for pragmatic and relevant progress and the rejection of cultural backwardness, I see the Bettie Pages of this world inadvertantly strengthening the hand of reactionaries and, in effect, helping to prolong the 'burka-requirement-thing'.
Originally posted by FMFI'm not sure she did any "harm" to anyone. She was a hottie in her time though! 😏
"Bettie Page, one of the most famous US pin-up models of the 1950s, has died in Los Angeles, aged 85. Her provocative poses - often in bikinis - made her a cult figure and she was one of the first models to appear in Playboy magazine. Bettie Page was credited with helping to pave the way for the sexual revolution of the 1960s."
Rest of the sotory here:
http: ...[text shortened]... iffer and say that Bettie Page did more harm to the cause of women than good?
Any thoughts?