https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/biden-water-heater-ban-to-drive-up-energy-prices-for-seniors-poor/
The nasty revengeful Biden is really cranking out his leggaaaaccy.
Your parents have to buy another water heater. I'm too busy to read all these stories, what with golf and all, but I think it can be reversed by Trump.
Jan 20 will be better than watching the Super Bowl. Trump likes to show off his talents, there are prob arrangements being made to be sure we get to see every one of his Exec Orders!!!!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidActually:
https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/biden-water-heater-ban-to-drive-up-energy-prices-for-seniors-poor/
The nasty revengeful Biden is really cranking out his leggaaaaccy.
Your parents have to buy another water heater. I'm too busy to read all these stories, what with golf and all, but I think it can be reversed by Trump.
Jan 20 will be better than watching the ...[text shortened]... , there are prob arrangements being made to be sure we get to see every one of his Exec Orders!!!!!!
"The Department of Energy estimated the new standards, which will take effect for newly manufactured electric water storage heaters beginning in 2029, will save households an average of between $100 to $200 on their utility bills per year and $1,800 over the lifetime of the appliances."
AND:
"The rules will also avert an estimated 332 million metric tons of carbon dioxide pollution from the atmosphere over the next 30 years, DOE officials said.
Speaking to reporters Tuesday, officials touted the new efficiency standards as a cost-saving measure to reduce pollution for millions of people and result in energy savings of 17.6 quadrillion British thermal units over the next 30 years, what officials said will be the largest-ever emissions reduction achieved by a single DOE efficiency rule in department history."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/biden-administration-finalizes-efficiency-rules-for-water-heaters/ar-AA1nXe6W
Try not to believe everything you read in right wing rags like the NY Post esp. articles that mostly quote CEOs of companies that sell crappy, inefficient and outmoded water heaters.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou're also eligible for a $1750 rebate if you replace your heat pump water heater with a more energy efficient one though the program is limited to those who earn 150% or less of area median income. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/inflation-reduction-act-joe-biden-climate-energy-home-upgrades/
https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/biden-water-heater-ban-to-drive-up-energy-prices-for-seniors-poor/
The nasty revengeful Biden is really cranking out his leggaaaaccy.
Your parents have to buy another water heater. I'm too busy to read all these stories, what with golf and all, but I think it can be reversed by Trump.
Jan 20 will be better than watching the ...[text shortened]... , there are prob arrangements being made to be sure we get to see every one of his Exec Orders!!!!!!
@AverageJoe1 saidMore info:
https://nypost.com/2025/01/05/us-news/biden-water-heater-ban-to-drive-up-energy-prices-for-seniors-poor/
The nasty revengeful Biden is really cranking out his leggaaaaccy.
Your parents have to buy another water heater. I'm too busy to read all these stories, what with golf and all, but I think it can be reversed by Trump.
Jan 20 will be better than watching the ...[text shortened]... , there are prob arrangements being made to be sure we get to see every one of his Exec Orders!!!!!!
"The updated standards will require new gas tankless (also known as instantaneous) water heaters to use about 13% less energy than today’s least efficient models, effectively requiring products to use condensing technology that wastes less heat. More than 60% of new units sold today already meet the new standards, and all major water heater manufacturers sell such models.
The separate standards finalized earlier this year for other water heater types will require a similar percentage efficiency improvement for gas tank models, and a significantly larger efficiency improvement for most electric tank models. Those standards will take effect in 2029 while the standards for tankless models will take effect in late 2029 or early 2030.
DOE estimates that the standards for tankless models will cumulatively save consumers $3.1 billion—an amount more than 100 times greater than the $20 million it projects that manufacturers will need to invest to upgrade product lines that make the less-efficient type of tankless water heater. "
https://appliance-standards.org/document/new-standards-tankless-water-heaters-set-cut-utility-bills-and-climate-pollution
So companies will have more than 4 years to stop selling inefficient, junk water heaters and produce better ones than will save consumers billions.
@no1marauder saidThere is no way that, in my day, that I could have practiced law ( if I had been a lawyer!) and done all the stuff you dig up.
More info:
"The updated standards will require new gas tankless (also known as instantaneous) water heaters to use about 13% less energy than today’s least efficient models, effectively requiring products to use condensing technology that wastes less heat. [b]More than 60% of new units sold today already meet the new standards, and all major water heater manufacturers ...[text shortened]... p selling inefficient, junk water heaters and produce better ones than will save consumers billions.
Get some air. Why so defensive?
Hey, in a casual forum, do you think Sue et al would read all that? Sonhouse wouldn’t as he is doing his own thinking. And he seldom links.
@AverageJoe1 saidDoing research is an indispensable skill in most professions. It took me only a few minutes to find the information in the links I have posted.
There is no way that, in my day, that I could have practiced law ( if I had been a lawyer!) and done all the stuff you dig up.
Get some air. Why so defensive?
Hey, in a casual forum, do you think Sue et al would read all that? Sonhouse wouldn’t as he is doing his own thinking. And he seldom links.