Big Federal Court win for our democracy:
"A federal court judge on Friday ordered the Department of Justice to turn over grand jury material referenced in redacted portions of special counsel Robert Mueller's report to the House Judiciary Committee.
Beryl Howell, the chief judge for the Washington, D.C. district court, ordered DOJ to turn over the materials by Wednesday, Oct. 30.
"The Department of Justice claims that existing law bars disclosure to the Congress of grand jury information," Howell wrote in the 75-page ruling. "DOJ is wrong."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-impeachment-inquiry/federal-judge-orders-justice-department-turn-over-mueller-grand-jury-n1072226
This information could very well be pertinent to the impeachment inquiry, which the Judge ruled has been commenced in a legal and Constitutional manner:
"The ruling — which DOJ is expected to appeal — would allow House investigators to see redacted portions of the report that involve Donald Trump Jr.'s Trump Tower meeting with Russians promising dirt on rival candidate Hillary Clinton, former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort's sharing of internal polling data with a Russian business associate, and "information about what candidate Trump knew in advance about Wikileaks’ dissemination in July 2016 of stolen emails from Democratic political organizations and the Clinton campaign," the judge noted.
Howell found that despite public protestations from the Trump administration that House Democrats have not actually launched a formal impeachment inquiry against President Donald Trump, one is underway.
The White House Counsel's office has refused to cooperate with the inquiry, arguing it's illegitimate because the House didn't hold a formal vote to declare one.
Howell said that standard is "cherry-picked and incomplete, and more significantly, this test has no textual support in the U.S. Constitution."
"Even in cases of presidential impeachment, a House resolution has never, in fact, been required to begin an impeachment inquiry," Howell wrote.
The Judiciary Committee "has shown that it needs the grand jury material referenced and cited in the Mueller Report to avoid a possible injustice in the impeachment inquiry," and that the "need for disclosure is greater than the need for continued secrecy."
"Impeachment based on anything less than all relevant evidence would compromise the public’s faith in the process," she added.
Howell, who was nominated to the bench by Trump predecessor Barack Obama, also shot down DOJ's argument that an impeachment proceeding is not a form of judicial proceeding.
"Contrary to DOJ’s position — and as historical practice, the Federalist Papers, the text of the Constitution, and Supreme Court precedent all make clear— impeachment trials are judicial in nature and constitute judicial proceedings," Howell wrote."
All the obstruction and stonewalling by Trump and his minions to avoid the American People knowing the truth is destined to fail.
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@no1marauder saidI spect if Trump gets booted out, you guys and gals will have Nikki Haley as president for 4 years, she can beat anybody, including Hillary. Better read up on her, she will probably not agree with your concept where people who work hard get their stuff taken away from them by people who don’t,
Big Federal Court win for our democracy:
"A federal court judge on Friday ordered the Department of Justice to turn over grand jury material referenced in redacted portions of special counsel Robert Mueller's report to the House Judiciary Committee.
Beryl Howell, the chief judge for the Washington, D.C. district court, ordered DOJ to turn over the materials by Wedne ...[text shortened]... ng by Trump and his minions to avoid the American People knowing the truth is destined to fail.
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@averagejoe1 saidHopefully she'll see that it's equally bad that people who are underpaid make too much money for people who are overpaid.
I spect if Trump gets booted out, you guys and gals will have Nikki Haley as president for 4 years, she can beat anybody, including Hillary. Better read up on her, she will probably not agree with your concept where people who work hard get their stuff taken away from them by people who don’t,
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@averagejoe1 saidHaley was and is a loyal Trump bootlicker and the American People are sick of such clowns as the 2018 election results showed.
I spect if Trump gets booted out, you guys and gals will have Nikki Haley as president for 4 years, she can beat anybody, including Hillary. Better read up on her, she will probably not agree with your concept where people who work hard get their stuff taken away from them by people who don’t,
You heard it here first!
Your idea that rich people "work hard" and the average working American is just a freeloader wanting to steal from them is a typical one among right wingers that the People reject out of hand as the bizarre propaganda that it is.
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"Howell, who was nominated to the bench by Trump predecessor Barack Obama,"
all you need to know right there...will be shot down like the others.
@averagejoe1 saidNikki Haley has as much chance of being elected President as you have of pitching a no-hitter and belting four inside-the-park home runs in the World Series. With your eyes closed.
I spect if Trump gets booted out, you guys and gals will have Nikki Haley as president for 4 years, she can beat anybody, including Hillary. Better read up on her, she will probably not agree with your concept where people who work hard get their stuff taken away from them by people who don’t,
@averagejoe1 saidSo, basically, you are expecting the booting out...
I spect if Trump gets booted out, you guys and gals will have Nikki Haley as president for 4 years, she can beat anybody, including Hillary. Better read up on her, she will probably not agree with your concept where people who work hard get their stuff taken away from them by people who don’t,
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@handyandy saidUhhhh, you think Nikki Haley doesnt have the hutzpah for presidency? Why not?
Nikki Haley has as much chance of being elected President as you have of pitching a no-hitter and belting four inside-the-park home runs in the World Series. With your eyes closed.
@shavixmir saidCould happen, noman could stand this misery more than Trump has, but on the other hand ,hes not a quitter so you have to commit to really getting the knives out
So, basically, you are expecting the booting out...
@averagejoe1 saidUhhhh, we don't need "hutzpah," we need statesmanship.
Uhhhh, you think Nikki Haley doesnt have the hutzpah for presidency? Why not?
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@averagejoe1 saidLike "The night of the long knives"?
Could happen, noman could stand this misery more than Trump has, but on the other hand ,hes not a quitter so you have to commit to really getting the knives out
How very nostalgic that would be for your sect.
@handyandy saidWhat fo you think we need? Stock answer by a lib would be...”let me tell you what we dont need”. Can you enthrall us with what we do need?
Uhhhh, we don't need "hutzpah," we need statesmanship.
Hutzpah is good. Trump is loaded with it, and it makes him successful. Hes fulfilled all his promises and i have $4900 more in income this year.
So, what DO we need? Define statesmanship. Obama? Carter?
@wolfe63 saidDont get youvthere, just was metaphoricaly saying it will take a lot to bring him down. If you gals prevail, i guess we will impeach President Yang, how long do you think he could take this kind of pressure.? Tears, wouldnt you think? statesman-like tears.
Like "The night of the long knives"?
How very nostalgic that would be for your sect.
@averagejoe1 saidThe Army is paying for the wall. What happened to Mexico paying for it?
What fo you think we need? Stock answer by a lib would be...”let me tell you what we dont need”. Can you enthrall us with what we do need?
Hutzpah is good. Trump is loaded with it, and it makes him successful. Hes fulfilled all his promises and i have $4900 more in income this year.
So, what DO we need? Define statesmanship. Obama? Carter?
@no1marauder saidWhat grand jury material? It is Robert Mueller's report, so what is the evidence being withheld? What does the DOJ have to do with it?
Big Federal Court win for our democracy:
"A federal court judge on Friday ordered the Department of Justice to turn over grand jury material referenced in redacted portions of special counsel Robert Mueller's report to the House Judiciary Committee.
Beryl Howell, the chief judge for the Washington, D.C. district court, ordered DOJ to turn over the materials by Wedne ...[text shortened]... ng by Trump and his minions to avoid the American People knowing the truth is destined to fail.
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