@wildgrass saidThe laptop existed. It was not Russian disinformation. The FBI and CIA lied about that. I posted the house report. Did you read it?
Oh yeah there was that. I meant that there was nothing on the laptop that was relevant to a presidential election news cycle. It should have been a non-issue, but instead we got hundreds of news stories, a thousand hours of air time, all for nothing.
And what was the laptop supposed to be about? Nobody claimed it was relevant to a presidential election news cycle that I recall hearing about. Is that what you heard? If so, what is your source of information?
@sonhouse saidTrump has not been POTUS for the last 10 years. Biden was POTUS for 4 years. Are you in denial of that?
You mean when they were controlled by Trump? FBI and DOJ have been corrupt and corrupted by Trump for the last ten years whenever Trump is in power the first thing he subverts is DOJ and FBI so now hundreds or maybe thousands of FBI agents have been fired for daring to have been told by their boss to investigate Trump on Jan6 and the stolen TS docs.
That is political revenge of the lowest order and the hallmark of a dictator.
The FBI and CIA protected Biden by lying about Hunter's laptop. Read the house report I posted.
@Metal-Brain saidThat the whole point. Right wingers tried to argue that the story was suppressd in the media as a coveruo. It's literally the reason why Elon bought twitter.
The laptop existed. It was not Russian disinformation. The FBI and CIA lied about that. I posted the house report. Did you read it?
And what was the laptop supposed to be about? Nobody claimed it was relevant to a presidential election news cycle that I recall hearing about. Is that what you heard? If so, what is your source of information?
Turns out the contents was junk. Media should have ignored it but internet trolls from Russia invented a giant conspiracy theory and y'all bought it.
@wildgrass saidWhat giant conspiracy theory? I have never heard of that until now. What is your source of information? It seems to me that you have a conspiracy theory that the Russians invented a conspiracy theory. Where is your evidence?
That the whole point. Right wingers tried to argue that the story was suppressd in the media as a coveruo. It's literally the reason why Elon bought twitter.
Turns out the contents was junk. Media should have ignored it but internet trolls from Russia invented a giant conspiracy theory and y'all bought it.
Hunter's laptop contained a lot of stuff including Hunter calling his dad pedo pete or something like that. In any case the FBI claimed the laptop did not exist or was a fake and once again a conspiracy theory that the Russians were behind claiming it existed.
Read the wikipedia link below. You will see that the claim was the laptop itself was Russian disinformation by the FBI and CIA. Here is an excerpt:
"Shortly after the Post story broke, social media companies blocked links to it, while other news outlets declined to publish the story due to concerns about provenance and suspicions of Russian disinformation.[8] On October 19, 2020, an open letter signed by 51 former US intelligence officials warned that the laptop "has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation."[9] By May 2023, no evidence had publicly surfaced to support suspicions that the laptop was part of a Russian disinformation scheme"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_Biden_laptop_controversy
The FBI and CIA conspired to cover up that it was Hunter's laptop. It was suppressed by social media and news outlets. And stop making up lies that the contents were junk. A moment ago you did not even know there were any contents to see. And if there was nothing to see there why did the FBI and CIA conspire to coverup that it belonged to Hunter?
Your position seems to be they covered it up even though there was nothing to cover up. That takes a leap of faith dude. But go ahead and read the NY Post article and see if you can prove it did not expose corruption by Joe Biden.
Here is another excerpt:
"In December 2019, under the authority of a subpoena issued by a Wilmington grand jury, the FBI seized the laptop from Mac Isaac.[1][12][13] FBI investigators handling Hunter Biden's laptop quickly concluded in 2019 "that the laptop was genuinely his and did not seem to have been tampered with or manipulated".[14][15] In June 2024, federal prosecutors utilized the laptop as evidence as part of a criminal case against Hunter Biden, alongside testimony from an FBI agent involved in authenticating and investigating the laptop"
So the FBi knew it was real and lied about it.
@wildgrass saidThe FBI and CIA falsely called Hunter's laptop Russian disinformation.
There was nothing on the laptop.
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-information-shows-cia-contractors-colluded-biden-campaign-discredit-hunter
In June 2024, federal prosecutors utilized the laptop as evidence as part of a criminal case against Hunter Biden, alongside testimony from an FBI agent involved in authenticating and investigating the laptop.
Nothing there huh? Stop making up BS. Joe had to pardon his son Hunter. Are you going to claim he had to be pardoned (after Joe said he wouldn't) over nothing? Pedo Pete had to pardon his son after he said he would not.
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@Metal-Brain saidThe "laptop story" as far as I understand it was not just about whether the data was real or what could be authenticated or not, it was about what was on the laptop. What was the data? This is apparent in the links that you shared.
What giant conspiracy theory? I have never heard of that until now. What is your source of information? It seems to me that you have a conspiracy theory that the Russians invented a conspiracy theory. Where is your evidence?
Hunter's laptop contained a lot of stuff including Hunter calling his dad pedo pete or something like that. In any case the FBI claimed the laptop ...[text shortened]... ed in authenticating and investigating the laptop"
So the FBi knew it was real and lied about it.
That's where the Russian disinformation machine started swirling. The corrupt burisma stories and apparently he was working for China too. The claim was that the laptop has evidence of all of it which all turned out to be false. It was just nudes.
@Earl-of-Trumps saidI wrote that as it was , CORRUPTION, dem or repub.
Tell the *whole* story about that meeting between AG Lynch and BClinton.
They both secretly flew into the same city at the same time. Bill met Loretta and passed her a package, which was perceived to be $CASH for signing off on Comey's dropping charges against Hillary, as I recall.
You know that Comey's reason as to why he was dropping charges was, that he felt h ...[text shortened]... were so p!ssed. what a rape of justice. Hilary the criminal has been protected for a long long time
That OUTRAGED the right wing media ATT MONTH AFTER MONTH.
Tell me why it is now ok for not only meeting on a tarmac but THREE separate agencies meeting IN THE WHITE HOUSE, corruption in plain sight. It doesn't matter if they were talking about the price of oranges meeting like that to discuss political issues NOT LAW AND ORDER is CORRUPTION.
But you will NEVER deign to admit that since your GOD TRUMP can NEVER do any wrong.
You insult our intelligence.
@Metal-Brain saidSo what, you mean it is now ok if corruption is in plain sight? Selling Tesla's on WH grounds? Selling bitcoin where the biggest buyer gets the ear of POTUS? Vance, Patel, Bondi IN THE FKING WHITE HOUSE TALKING POLITICS?
Trump has not been POTUS for the last 10 years. Biden was POTUS for 4 years. Are you in denial of that?
The FBI and CIA protected Biden by lying about Hunter's laptop. Read the house report I posted.
you are insulting our intelligence.
Move to Moscow where you will be hailed as a hero and you can continue your anti US propaganda on your own TV show like Maria did.
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@sonhouse saidI haven't got the slightest idea why you think that cabinet members of *any* administration should not meet together?
I wrote that as it was , CORRUPTION, dem or repub.
That OUTRAGED the right wing media ATT MONTH AFTER MONTH.
Tell me why it is now ok for not only meeting on a tarmac but THREE separate agencies meeting IN THE WHITE HOUSE, corruption in plain sight. It doesn't matter if they were talking about the price of oranges meeting like that to discuss political issues NOT LAW AND O ...[text shortened]... NEVER deign to admit that since your GOD TRUMP can NEVER do any wrong.
You insult our intelligence.
And I will not support any president - including Trump and/or cabinet members, if they break the law
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@Earl-of-Trumps saidYou want to continue your insecure attempt at not knowing what is going on here, good luck trying to prove you don't know what we are talking about.
I haven't got the slightest idea why you think that cabinet members of *any* administration should not meet together?
And I will not support any president - including Trump and/or cabinet members, if they break the law
Like I said, you insult our intelligence.
You know EXACTTLY why it is corruption of the highest or lowest order depending on you POV, we think it is corruption of the lowest most sinister order.
You know full well they has been a 250 year INDEPENDENCE of DOJ and FBI to to their work without POTUS interference which is why they made them
independent in the first place, a POTUS owning FBI and DOJ can and WILL use that power to go after political opponents just like he is doing now. And even people just doing their job, can't have ANY of that if it involves even the slightest HINT of criticism of our dearly beloved POTUS. Trump THINKS he is dearly beloved but the polls show clearly he is underground in approval ratings and his response? FAKE NEWS.
So stop insulting our intelligence. You know full well what corruption is and FBI,DOJ and VP meeting in the WH to not talk about law or due process but pursuing political hit jobs and strategy to limit the political damage to Trump if and when the full unredacted Epstein file comes out. THAT is not what they are supposed to be doing in their jobs.
They are SUPPOSED to be after real bad guys, Cartel, Mafia, fraud and the like NOT conducting coordinated political hit jobs RIGHT OUT IN THE OPEN.
You insult our intelligence with your innocence stance, don't see the problem here BS, you know EXACTLY what is corruption and will go after ANY democrat doing 1/10th what FBI and Bondi are doing as we speak.
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@wildgrass saidYou are wrong. That is why you cannot prove it. Read the house report. IT PROVES YOU WRONG.
The "laptop story" as far as I understand it was not just about whether the data was real or what could be authenticated or not, it was about what was on the laptop. What was the data? This is apparent in the links that you shared.
That's where the Russian disinformation machine started swirling. The corrupt burisma stories and apparently he was working for China too. Th ...[text shortened]... m was that the laptop has evidence of all of it which all turned out to be false. It was just nudes.
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-information-shows-cia-contractors-colluded-biden-campaign-discredit-hunter
@Metal-Brain saidYou already admitted it was just junk files on the laptop. But media went haywire over burisma and China and all that was supposed to be on the laptop.
You are wrong. That is why you cannot prove it. Read the house report. IT PROVES YOU WRONG.
https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/new-information-shows-cia-contractors-colluded-biden-campaign-discredit-hunter
All those stories were amplified by Russian trolls.
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@wildgrass saidNo I didn't. I said the exact opposite. That laptop was used as evidence against Hunter. Evidence strong enough to need his daddy to pardon him after Joe said he wouldn't.
You already admitted it was just junk files on the laptop. But media went haywire over burisma and China and all that was supposed to be on the laptop.
All those stories were amplified by Russian trolls.
"media went haywire over burisma and China and all that was supposed to be on the laptop"
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never heard about that until now. Burisma was a scandal long before the laptop was discovered. And the China money connection was already known. The Biden corruption of receiving laundered money from China is well documented by the house oversight committee. You are beating a dead horse. It was already proven.
https://oversight.house.gov/release/comer-reveals-how-joe-biden-received-laundered-china-money/
Where are you getting this nonsensical crap from saying that a laptop was supposed to be about Burisma and China as if additional evidence was needed?
What is your source of information?
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@Metal-Brain saidThis was the original news story about the laptop. It set off a massive news story that Republicans exploited for the campaign. It was conveniently timed at 3 weeks before the election. It turned out the email was given to the post from Rudy Giuliani who was working for the trump campaign. The email address in the atory was not verified until 2023, the ny post didnt even try to authenticate the information.
No I didn't. I said the exact opposite. That laptop was used as evidence against Hunter. Evidence strong enough to need his daddy to pardon him after Joe said he wouldn't.
"media went haywire over burisma and China and all that was supposed to be on the laptop"
I have no idea what you are talking about. I have never heard about that until now. Burisma was a scandal ...[text shortened]... about Burisma and China as if additional evidence was needed?
What is your source of information?
https://nypost.com/2020/10/14/email-reveals-how-hunter-biden-introduced-ukrainian-biz-man-to-dad/