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US presses Israel on settler row

The US says it is awaiting a formal response from Israel amid a row over its decision to build new homes in East Jerusalem.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/8569406.stm

Bravo?

Or is it in the best interests of reaching a peace settlement that Israel continues to build on occupied land?

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Originally posted by FMF
[b]US presses Israel on settler row

The US says it is awaiting a formal response from Israel amid a row over its decision to build new homes in East Jerusalem.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/8569406.stm

Bravo?

Or is it in the best interests of reaching a peace settlement that Israel continues to build on occupied land?[/b]
I too say Bravo USA!
This was exactly what I meant in Thread 127946!

sh76
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Originally posted by FabianFnas
I too say Bravo USA!
This was exactly what I meant in Thread 127946!
Then I'd suggest taking a cue from FMF in terms of how to say it.

As a comparison:

FMF: Gave a one sentence concise summary of the story
FabianFnas: Just said that Israel was criticized; didn't refer to about what

FMF: posted a link
FabianFnas: no link

FMF: proposed a question for debate
FabianFnas: posted only a condescending rhetorical question (will they ever learn?) with a blanket conclusion ("illegal actions" )

FMF: Used basically neutral terminology
FabianFnas: Used the incendiary and offensive term "criminal state"

FMF: Accentuated the positive (Bravo, USA)
FabianFnas: Accentuated the negative (Israel criticized)



For what it's worth, I agree that announcing the new construction while Biden was literally there at the time to try to jumpstart peace talks was a reckless and stupid thing to do. I also agree that for the sake of peace, settlement expansion should be halted immediately; at least pending a real attempt at reaching a settlement. If a real attempt is made and talks break down though, then it's business as usual.

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Originally posted by sh76
Then I'd suggest taking a cue from FMF in terms of how to say it.
My transgender case officer has also commented on how good my posts are.

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Originally posted by FMF
[b]US presses Israel on settler row

The US says it is awaiting a formal response from Israel amid a row over its decision to build new homes in East Jerusalem.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/8569406.stm

Bravo?

Or is it in the best interests of reaching a peace settlement that Israel continues to build on occupied land?[/b]
No, I don't think it's in the best interest of the Peace process to continue building settlements. It's quite the opposite.
Lets see what the response is? Or can we already tell?

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Originally posted by FMF
My transgender case officer has also commented on how good my posts are.
case officer as in "undercover secret agent", or "still on probation"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Case_officer

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Originally posted by FMF
My transgender case officer has also commented on how good my posts are.
What is a transgender case officer, and how does he/she qualify to judge your debate posts?
:-)

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Originally posted by FMF
[b]US presses Israel on settler row

The US says it is awaiting a formal response from Israel amid a row over its decision to build new homes in East Jerusalem.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/low/middle_east/8569406.stm

Bravo?

Or is it in the best interests of reaching a peace settlement that Israel continues to build on occupied land?[/b]
i don't think it works unless the US brings up sanctions against Israel. like withholding funds, etc.

maybe Biden's recent disaster in Israel will have a bright side, if the Obama team summons up enough moxie to take on the Israeli lobby.

if the US doesn't put some teeth into it i think the Israelis will just waffle a bit then go back to same game.

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