07 Mar 20
At last something tangible from Brexit.
The UK will leave the European aviation safety regulator
after the Brexit transition period, Transport Secretary Grant
Shapps has confirmed.
He said UK membership of the European Aviation Safety
Agency - responsible for certifying the airworthiness of planes
- would end on 31 December.
He told Aviation Week that the UK's Civil Aviation Authority
would instead "bring expertise home".
An aerospace trade body said the move could put
high-skilled jobs at risk.
Mr Shapps told the publication much of the Cologne-based
European Aviation Safety Agency's (EASA) expertise came
from the UK and that a lot of its leaders were British
BBC
07 Mar 20
@wolfgang59 saidMaybe, but can you not see that it’s a negotiation stance?
At last something tangible from Brexit.
The UK will leave the European aviation safety regulator
after the Brexit transition period, Transport Secretary Grant
Shapps has confirmed.
He said UK membership of the European Aviation Safety
Agency - responsible for certifying the airworthiness of planes
- would end on 31 December.
He told Aviation Week that the ...[text shortened]... ety Agency's (EASA) expertise came
from the UK and that a lot of its leaders were British
BBC
Why is this “tangible”?
07 Mar 20
@divegeester saidIf this happens I don't see what's wrong with it anyway from a 'Brexiters' point of view. I daresay it won't make the least difference in terms of aircraft safety, and to withdraw cooperation with the EU is right in line with the 'Brexit' philosophy, isn't it? Bringing the jobs back home and all?
Maybe, but can you not see that it’s a negotiation stance?
Why is this “tangible”?
I'm not looking to score points, it's a serious question, and yes, this post you may take seriously.
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@wolfgang59 saidThe UK is also now free to reduce the VAT on sanitary products, something it was prevented from doing while part of the EU.
At last something tangible from Brexit.
The UK will leave the European aviation safety regulator
after the Brexit transition period, Transport Secretary Grant
Shapps has confirmed.
He said UK membership of the European Aviation Safety
Agency - responsible for certifying the airworthiness of planes
- would end on 31 December.
He told Aviation Week that the ...[text shortened]... ety Agency's (EASA) expertise came
from the UK and that a lot of its leaders were British
BBC
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51772425
07 Mar 20
@ghost-of-a-duke saidCheaper sanitary stuff, sounds like a good idea, as long as it's done. While we're on 'you know it makes sense' in the other forum; whilst going about my daily business I've been trying to think where that phrase originates. Can you enlighten me?
The UK is also now free to reduce the VAT on sanitary products, something it was prevented from doing while part of the EU.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51772425
07 Mar 20
@indonesia-phil saidAll brexiters want less safe air travel; It’s a well known FACT!
If this happens I don't see what's wrong with it anyway from a 'Brexiters' point of view. I daresay it won't make the least difference in terms of aircraft safety, and to withdraw cooperation with the EU is right in line with the 'Brexit' philosophy, isn't it? Bringing the jobs back home and all?
I'm not looking to score points, it's a serious question, and yes, this post you may take seriously.
Seriously. As you say “if” it happens. It’s not “tangible “ any more than any of he other negotiable variables are “tangible”.
If you believe that Brexit is about “bringing home” a relatively small number of airline safety specialist jobs then no, I won’t take you seriously Phil.
Respect and all that...
07 Mar 20
@divegeester saidIt wasn't me who used the 't' word, you'll have to take that one up with Mr Wolfgang.
All brexiters want less safe air travel; It’s a well known FACT!
Seriously. As you say “if” it happens. It’s not “tangible “ any more than any of he other negotiable variables are “tangible”.
If you believe that Brexit is about “bringing home” a relatively small number of airline safety specialist jobs then no, I won’t take you seriously Phil.
Respect and all that...
And of course 'Brexit' isn't about specific jobs, sectors or whatever, but as I said this is in line with the general philosophy, isn't it? Taking back control and all? I'm just trying, in a non - confrontational way, to get a fix on how a 'Brexiter' feels about this specific point, since it's been raised.
Respectfully yours....
07 Mar 20
@indonesia-phil saidIs it? What is the “general philosophy”?
And of course 'Brexit' isn't about specific jobs, sectors or whatever, but as I said this is in line with the general philosophy, isn't it? Taking back control and all? I'm just trying, in a non - confrontational way, to get a fix on how a 'Brexiter' feels about this specific point, since it's been raised.
Respectfully yours....
What has “taking back control” got to do with this?
What “specific point” is it which has been raised that you are trying to “get a fix on” in your non-confrontational way?
07 Mar 20
@ghost-of-a-duke saidHurrah!
The UK is also now free to reduce the VAT on sanitary products, something it was prevented from doing while part of the EU.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-51772425
The Treasury estimates the move will save the
average woman nearly £40 over her lifetime.
07 Mar 20
@indonesia-phil saidI think it was the UK car seatbelt campaign prior to "clunk-click".
While we're on 'you know it makes sense' in the other forum; whilst going about my daily business I've been trying to think where that phrase originates.
08 Mar 20
@divegeester saidNow now, calm down, you're already starting to get defensive when there's no need. I'll answer your questions in reverse order, as that seems to make sense.
Is it? What is the “general philosophy”?
What has “taking back control” got to do with this?
What “specific point” is it which has been raised that you are trying to “get a fix on” in your non-confrontational way?
The specific point is aviation safety, i.e. safety checks on airplanes, which is what I thought this thread is about.
Taking back control means no longer doing this (checking airplanes) in conjunction with the EU, but the UK doing it themselves, the possibility of which was raised by Mr Wolfgang in the first post.
As to the general philosophy, that's what I'm trying to get at, if you understand the phrase, which I'm sure you do. I could very easily give you a synopsis of the philosophy of a remainer vis a vis the EU and 'Brexit', I was hoping you might give it to us from a 'Brexiters' point of view.
For example, you say that you aren't a nationalist, and yet so much of what you say points to the importance for you of the UK's, (and actually England's, since Scotland, Ireland and now Wales are pro - remain) interests coming first, and what is that if not nationalism?
I'm not pointing accusing fingers, I would just like an explanation, so that I can better understand your point of view.
08 Mar 20
@wolfgang59 saidThanks.
I think it was the UK car seatbelt campaign prior to "clunk-click".