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I heard cousin Gerry on the morning radio going on about the British government's responsibility to get out, so I don't think so.

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No more than sitting in a devolved government does, or any other act which acknowledges the situation as it currently stands.

Needless to say, the DUP are now frantically moving the goalposts. Again.

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Brian Blessed
described by one magazine as "the loudest man alive"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Blessed

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England prevails!

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you're joking of course. i presume you are referring to the six northern counties known as ulster. 😕

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Originally posted by eamon o
you're joking of course. i presume you are referring to the six northern counties known as ulster. 😕
Ulster is 9 counties.

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Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
England prevails!
what a victory. 😞🙄

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I don't know what to think.
It tastes of concessions and Devilera all over again.
Especially after that report on the police last week. One would think it would be the DUP and Paisley licking dirt to hold onto power.

Obviously concessions and showing you are willing is a positive and constructive thing to do and may even win hearts and minds, but I have a nagging feeling it's just the power hungry selling morals down the slippery slope of corruption to stick their rancid claws into the putrid bag of semi-power that is held before them.

Or, to put it another way: What they hell did they get in return?

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Originally posted by shavixmir
I don't know what to think.
It tastes of concessions and Devilera all over again.
Especially after that report on the police last week. One would think it would be the DUP and Paisley licking dirt to hold onto power.

Obviously concessions and showing you are willing is a positive and constructive thing to do and may even win hearts and minds, but I ...[text shortened]... hat is held before them.

Or, to put it another way: What they hell did they get in return?
I share your concerns, but basically I think they're so far down this road now that they really had no option.

What they get in return is the Assembly back in track (ie a couple of SF people in control of key parts of everyday life), and the restoration of the various cross-border bodies.

It is about what you have to do once you decide to give up the armed struggle. It is their call.

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it is irrelevant, most people with a room tempreture IQ realised that British Intelligence had completely infiltrated Sinn Fein and managed to secure all the important positions within the political side of the movement.
Positions up to and including Adams and McGuinness therefore this was always coming as the same people had helped emasculate the Military aspect of the movement by rigging internal elections for the army executive which basically ran the IRA and it's armed campaign.
However I would caution against people believing that the Irish question is resolved as previous generations have witnessed "republicanism is like a live electric cable, you only know it's there when you unbear the flex"

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It signals an acceptance of the current situation nothing more.

At the end of the day, until the majority of people in Northern Ireland don't want to be a part of the UK it will remain a part of the UK- self determination.
Sinn Fein know this, and hopefully have realised that the best way forward is to be involved in decisions.

I just hope the peace lasts.

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Originally posted by london nick
It signals an acceptance of the current situation nothing more.

At the end of the day, until the majority of people in Northern Ireland don't want to be a part of the UK it will remain a part of the UK- self determination.
Sinn Fein know this, and hopefully have realised that the best way forward is to be involved in decisions.

I just hope the peace lasts.
I think self-determination would be a valid position if 'northern ireland' was any sort of geographical or political entity in its own right. But it isn't - it was created artificially, purely to create an inbuilt unionist majority, so that a bit of Ireland could be retained.

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