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@AverageJoe1 saidWy wouldn't you call a handout a handout?
Let me get this straight . You suggest above that only the Apples and Amazon’s get what you call handouts. Lesser corporations do not?
Looks like a level playing field to me.
Capitalism in America is skewed towards companies who are good at government lobbying. The concept is based on trickle down economics a vestige of the Reagan era proven false over and over and over. That's not great.
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@wildgrass saidI am saying handout, that’s fine, whatever. Dint get you there. But all corporations get equal treatment in the way of handouts. I will never understand why you guys are not into supply side economics, nor do I understand why are you implying that only the big corporations get government benefits and handouts. I don’t get you there either. And, anyone can have lobbyist. Here again, you suggest that only the big corporations at lobbyist.
Wy wouldn't you call a handout a handout?
Capitalism in America is skewed towards companies who are good at government lobbying. The concept is based on trickle down economics a vestige of the Reagan era proven false over and over and over. That's not great.
the annual growth rate of real gross domestic product (GDP) in the U.S. was 3.4 percent per year, and 4.3 percent per year during the 1983-1989 Reagan expansion alone.
Leave it alone. And not to change the subject, when you speak of poor people, but I suggest that you people stop spending any money on illegal people, and that $150 million a year in just one city would cover a lot of poor people. Don’t tell me you are one of those Sanctuary city guys. Boy could they pay for a lot of poor people if they got rid of the illegals Oops, im sorry, ‘illegal is very offensive to you people.
If you would take care of people in need and get rid of illegals, you would not even be writing all this stuff.
Are you aware, when you get right down to the nuts and bolts, that the only way for everyone to get the treatment that you want them to get is communism.?
@wildgrass saidBefore you get too far a field, know that there has to be lobbyists. The reason is if Congress is voting on water heaters,, a congressman who does not know anything about water heaters has got to be apprised of the nature of water heaters by… A lobbyist, being a person who knows about water heaters.
Wy wouldn't you call a handout a handout?
Capitalism in America is skewed towards companies who are good at government lobbying. The concept is based on trickle down economics a vestige of the Reagan era proven false over and over and over. That's not great.
@AverageJoe1 saidDoubling your investment does not make you rich. An investment that starts at 5 bucks and ends up at a thousand will make you rich.
Your statement that they get paid without working absolutely makes no sense if you dissect it. First rich people are not getting paid. Employees get paid.
People that are rich 95% of the time took a risk. I took a risk and bought Nvidia a while back and it is doubled since I’ve bought it. I could’ve lost it all. I took a risk while you reworked your internet.
Eve ...[text shortened]... they created jobs. And so on and so on. so what do you think should be done about Jeff Bezos?!???
You put what, 10K into Nvidia and it is now 20K? Not even enough to buy a car much less say I am RICH.
@sonhouse saidDon't get your point. Why write so cleverly? You are the only one who gets. your meaning.
Doubling your investment does not make you rich. An investment that starts at 5 bucks and ends up at a thousand will make you rich.
You put what, 10K into Nvidia and it is now 20K? Not even enough to buy a car much less say I am RICH.
@AverageJoe1 saidYou just claimed your investment doubled in worth.
Don't get your point. Why write so cleverly? You are the only one who gets. your meaning.
I am saying that will not get you RICH. That gets you extra money if you cash out but like I said, 10,000 a few months ago and now it is worth 20,000, not going to make you rich. 20K would be a good down payment on a car but not just outright buying a car anyone would want, you are not going to find for that 20K.
The cars people want are MINIMUM 50 thou.
So you know how much you invested and I bet it was around ten K.
Even if you invested 100K and now you have 200K potential that will not mean you can retire. You cash out and that 200K on paper gets knocked down to what, 170K after taxes? Even if you count 200K, ten % interest gets you just 20K a year, not going to help your lifestyle.
@AverageJoe1 saidIf the government “got away” from your riches you would lose it all because you rely on the government to protect your investments.
OK, ‘we you, govt’ whomever are ‘letting ‘ the successful ‘get away’ with being successful……Get Away.
This is one of those ‘hanging comments’ that leaves the conservatives of us scratching our heads. We do not know what you mean, in the way of what you mean by it, and what do you think should change it.
Could you be big and elaborate. Today, Wildgrass says jus ...[text shortened]... f Bezos and Steve Jobs did not have such limitations. So with that, please give us your philosophy..
@AverageJoe1 saidI’d prefer government employees advise Congresspeople and not lobbyists with conflict of interests.
Before you get too far a field, know that there has to be lobbyists. The reason is if Congress is voting on water heaters,, a congressman who does not know anything about water heaters has got to be apprised of the nature of water heaters by… A lobbyist, being a person who knows about water heaters.
@Mott-The-Hoople saidFunny, I would have sworn I was talking to less than Average Joe1.
i doubt you have two nickles to rub together
@AverageJoe1 said"Institutionalizing Trumpism":
What is this????
https://www.heritage.org/debt/commentary/the-lefts-7-trillion-lie-biden-far-outpaces-trump-racking-the-national-debt
Roberts has stated Heritage's goal is to "institutionalize Trumpism" by promoting his policies and building a framework for future conservative governance, as documented by The New York Times.
Whaddya know. Who would have EVER thought a supposedly independent outfit would be for project2025 and increasing Trump's power, leading of course to a coup, Trump as the new King Trump, ALL HAIL OUR KING.
HAIL NO.
@sonhouse saidbetter put them panties away big boy...its OVER
"Institutionalizing Trumpism":
Roberts has stated Heritage's goal is to "institutionalize Trumpism" by promoting his policies and building a framework for future conservative governance, as documented by The New York Times.
Whaddya know. Who would have EVER thought a supposedly independent outfit would be for project2025 and increasing Trump's power, leading of course to a coup, Trump as the new King Trump, ALL HAIL OUR KING.
HAIL NO.
@AverageJoe1 saidI wasn't knocking lobbyists in general. But it needs to be clarified.
Before you get too far a field, know that there has to be lobbyists. The reason is if Congress is voting on water heaters,, a congressman who does not know anything about water heaters has got to be apprised of the nature of water heaters by… A lobbyist, being a person who knows about water heaters.
Amazon doesn't pay an army of lobbyists because of regulation. Amazon pays an army of lobbyists because the government gives Amazon money.
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@sonhouse said?? I take no issue with your math, and possible returns. So, you say $10000 a month ago is now $20k, it is not beoing to make me rich? No, rich is relative, but it would not make me rich. (?)
You just claimed your investment doubled in worth.
I am saying that will not get you RICH. That gets you extra money if you cash out but like I said, 10,000 a few months ago and now it is worth 20,000, not going to make you rich. 20K would be a good down payment on a car but not just outright buying a car anyone would want, you are not going to find for that 20K.
The cars ...[text shortened]... ? Even if you count 200K, ten % interest gets you just 20K a year, not going to help your lifestyle.
Then you say 20k on downpayment on a car would be a good downpayment on a car, I do not know what you are saying. So would $2000, so would $30,000. What are you talking about, this down payment on a car. Don't get it. And we all know values of various cars, available to low income and/or high income people. I love this country, buy what you want and can.
The cars people WANT are miniumum $50, right, it would be for me. Some folks like the Nissan Versa (looked it up) as the least expensive car which attracts many middle class people. I think that Wildgrass thinks all citizens should be of the same class, which means they would all want the same price for a car. I am not being cute, but what else could you be saying. What is your point? All prices should be the same?. Choice makes more sense to me. I would never get close to that Nissan.
Then you write about 100k having a 200k potential. Even I as an investor do not know what you are saying. THEN you say that a 10% interest (do you mean to say 'return'??) is not going to help (a person's) lifestyle. Now how in the world could you surmise that??
Please dont answer this post. But you could write something that makes sense.
@AThousandYoung saidThis one implies that a goveeerrnnnnnnnnnment employee explain the effect of the water heater bill that is before the congress.
I’d prefer government employees advise Congresspeople and not lobbyists with conflict of interests.