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Bush Destroyed a Dictator. Clinton Installed One.

Bush Destroyed a Dictator. Clinton Installed One.

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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123197784199983615.html?mod=yahoo_buzz


As President George W. Bush prepares to leave office amid a media chorus of reproach and derision, there is at least one comparison with his predecessor that speaks greatly in his favor. Mr. Bush removed the most ruthless dictator of his day, Saddam Hussein, thereby offering Iraqi citizens the possibility of self-rule. Bill Clinton's analogous achievement in the Middle East was to help install Yasser Arafat, the greatest terrorist of his day, as head of a proto-Palestinian state.

Im pretty sure the liberal media's portrayal of Bush was focused on the areas he didn't do well (or the areas the public thought he didn't do well), ignoring his achievements.
However I feel that history will show how the long-term effects of the bush administration are not going to be as bad as the media says it will be.

I also think its worth pointing out that since Bush waged the war on terror, the terrorists haven't attacked America.

There are many succeses of the administration that have been forgotten.

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i was going to list the dictators installed around the world by the us government, but it would take me the rest of the night. and to call arafat a dictator is ridiculous. or that clinton installed him for that matter.

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Originally posted by mbakunin
i was going to list the dictators installed around the world by the us government, but it would take me the rest of the night. and to call arafat a dictator is ridiculous. or that clinton installed him for that matter.
How about just one?

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Your 'liberal' media is a fantasy. You wouldn't know liberal media if it bought you a meal at a soup kitchen.

Bush removed the most ruthless dictator of his day? Horse hockey. Last time I checked, Kim Jong Ill was still at it.

Bush never caught Osama. FAIL - on a grand scale.

Fortunately we're done with the idiocy of the current administration in 4 days and I can proudly display my American flag.

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Originally posted by normbenign
How about just one?
hugo banzer, bolivia

fulgencio batista, cuba

humberto branco, brazil

Ngo Dinh Diem, South Vietnam

Maximiliano Martinez, el Salvador

Mobutu Sese Seko, Zaire

the shah of Iran

George Papadopoulos, Greece

Augusto Pinochet, Chile

Sitiveni Rabuka, Fiji

Somoza Sr. and Jr., Nicaragua

Suharto, Indonesia

Rafael Trujillo, Dominican Republic

these are just the ones installed by the us. many more were able to remain in power thanks to military and financial aid from the us.

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Originally posted by Badwater
Your 'liberal' media is a fantasy. You wouldn't know liberal media if it bought you a meal at a soup kitchen.

Bush removed the most ruthless dictator of his day? Horse hockey. Last time I checked, Kim Jong Ill was still at it.

Bush never caught Osama. FAIL - on a grand scale.

Fortunately we're done with the idiocy of the current administration in 4 days and I can proudly display my American flag.
"When John McCain said we could just 'muddle through' in Afghanistan, I argued for more resources and more troops to finish the fight against the terrorists who actually attacked us on 9/11, and made clear that we must take out Osama bin Laden and his lieutenants if we have them in our sights. John McCain likes to say that he'll follow bin Laden to the gates of hell--but he won't even go to the cave where he lives." - Barack Obama's DNC speech

Barack Obama: it is no longer essential to kill Osama bin Laden

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article5520116.ece

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Originally posted by mbakunin
i was going to list the dictators installed around the world by the us government, but it would take me the rest of the night. and to call arafat a dictator is ridiculous. or that clinton installed him for that matter.
I wasn't talking about what previous presidents did, I was talking about the bush administration.

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Originally posted by Badwater
Your 'liberal' media is a fantasy. You wouldn't know liberal media if it bought you a meal at a soup kitchen.

Bush removed the most ruthless dictator of his day? Horse hockey. Last time I checked, Kim Jong Ill was still at it.

Bush never caught Osama. FAIL - on a grand scale.

Fortunately we're done with the idiocy of the current administration in 4 days and I can proudly display my American flag.
Bush never caught Osama. FAIL - on a grand scale.

true. However at least he tried, and succeced in protecting america from terrorist attacks after 9/11. while obama won't even bother to look for him ''because its no longer important.''

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Osama Bin Laden was Bush's responsibility and failure, and no one else's.

Bush had plenty of warning about 9/11 and failed. Then he failed by not catching Bin Laden.

Obama isn't even the president yet, and you've already declared that he's failed in something as president. That's rich.

Bush is an abject failure as President of the United States. He's had the spectacular ability to screw up everything he's been involved with, unless you're one of his millionaire cronies. BUT at last he's gone, and fortunately he'll do the world some good at some point by dying a timely death. Good riddance.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I wasn't talking about what previous presidents did, I was talking about the bush administration.
It's debatable whether you can call him a dictator, but Karzai is clearly a candidate.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
It's debatable whether you can call him a dictator, but Karzai is clearly a candidate.
Karzai doesn't dictate; he's dictated to.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
I wasn't talking about what previous presidents did, I was talking about the bush administration.
isn't clinton a previous president?

anyway, my point is that installing and supporting dictators is an american tradition.

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Originally posted by Badwater
Osama Bin Laden was Bush's responsibility and failure, and no one else's.

Bush had plenty of warning about 9/11 and failed. Then he failed by not catching Bin Laden.

Obama isn't even the president yet, and you've already declared that he's failed in something as president. That's rich.

Bush is an abject failure as President of the United States. H ...[text shortened]... ly he'll do the world some good at some point by dying a timely death. Good riddance.
Yeah, he had like, months, man and CLinton never even heard of the guy, so it's clearly Bushs fault.

I blame Bush.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123197784199983615.html?mod=yahoo_buzz


As President George W. Bush prepares to leave office amid a media chorus of reproach and derision, there is at least one comparison with his predecessor that speaks greatly in his favor. Mr. Bush removed the most ruthless dictator of his day, Saddam Hussein, thereby offering Ir ...[text shortened]... ttacked America.

There are many succeses of the administration that have been forgotten.
Saddam Hussien was just another petty dictator of a 3rd world country like many around the world. He was NOT a threat to American security.
(See George Bush's lies about weapons of mass destruction) Much as you would not care to admit, "W" was a complete failure as a president. For all "W"s noise about national security, Republicans don't seem to want to discuss the fact that the 9/11 attacks happened on Bush's watch...NOT Clintons. "W" took over a nation in far better shape than it is in today. A nation that was respected, had a good economy, a federal surplus, a cleaner enviornment, fewer security issues, hurricane relief efforts that actually worked, and a President that did NOT use the Holy Bible as a political tool...and as far as future judgements of "W"s decisions, if that's all you folks on the right wing can offer after 8 years of "W" That's not much to offer, is it?? 😏

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Originally posted by mbakunin
hugo banzer, bolivia

fulgencio batista, cuba

humberto branco, brazil

Ngo Dinh Diem, South Vietnam

Maximiliano Martinez, el Salvador

Mobutu Sese Seko, Zaire

the shah of Iran

George Papadopoulos, Greece

Augusto Pinochet, Chile

Sitiveni Rabuka, Fiji

Somoza Sr. and Jr., Nicaragua

Suharto, Indonesia

Rafael Trujillo, Dominican ...[text shortened]... the us. many more were able to remain in power thanks to military and financial aid from the us.
Don't forget Usama bin Ladin.

Without training him for the Afganistani war against Sovjet and the kind donation of Stingers and other military weapons, he wouldn't be the strong al-Kaida leader he was (is?).