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Bye Robert Lee, bye!!!

Bye Robert Lee, bye!!!

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@eladar said
RE Lee is not a Civil War hero for people in Virginia? What state did R.E. Lee fight for in the Civil War?

How uneducated can you be?
Way to miss the point. Congrats.

I was saying Lee isn't a "hero" due to his skills as a general; he's a "hero" to white supremacists because he lead the fight to keep slavery. Lee symbolizes the hatred of what those Charlottesville racists.

In case you still don't get it: those Charlottesville white supremacists care more about his fight to keep slavery than his accomplishments as a general.

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I wasn't depicting Lee as such; my point is that regardless of Lee's feelings on slavery, he has become a white supremacist symbol.

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@vivify said
Way to miss the point. Congrats.

I was saying Lee isn't a "hero" due to his skills as a general; he's a "hero" to white supremacists because he lead the fight to keep slavery. Lee symbolizes the hatred of what those Charlottesville racists.

In case you still don't get it: those Charlottesville white supremacists care more about his fight to keep slavery than his accomplishments as a general.
Are you saying that everyone who would like to see the RE Lee statue stay is a white supremacist?

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@eladar said
Are you saying that everyone who would like to see the RE Lee statue stay is a white supremacist?
The Charlottesville protesters who chanted "Jews will not replace us" in the streets are.


@vivify said
The Charlottesville protesters who chanted "Jews will not replace us" in the streets are.
Answer my question.

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@mott-the-hoople said
an inanimate rock gone, that should stop the chicago killings…rock on
Of course, and as soon as all the statues of whites are taken down and the starues of the George Floyd types go up then blacks will start prospering, become more educated, have good family life with less broken homes, better jobs, etc etc .. problems will be solved.


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just curious here… what was the mortality rate for young black men during slavery vs now…anyone know?

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@mott-the-hoople said
just curious here… what was the mortality rate for young black men during slavery vs now…anyone know?
1850 the life expectancy for slaves was 21 years

https://geriatrics.stanford.edu/ethnomed/african_american/fund/health_history/longevity.html

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Yes; but you would be giving Americans too much credit here. You've justifiably made many posts criticizing the ignorance of average Americans on the nuance of history and historical figures.

Americans see history through quite a narrow and self-centered lens; thus, it's quite reasonable to conclude that most U.S. admirers of Lee identify more closely with what he represents (the fight to keep slavery) than the details of his actual accomplishments or personal beliefs.

This is especially true given America's continued racial history, and that a man who openly made disparaging racist statements (and was supported multiple times by the KKK) was elected president.

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@eladar said
Answer my question.
"All"? Maybe not. However, far too many people who want to keep Lee's statue are racists and/or white supremacists.


@vivify
KkK guys like Robert Byrd?

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@athousandyoung said
1850 the life expectancy for slaves was 21 years

https://geriatrics.stanford.edu/ethnomed/african_american/fund/health_history/longevity.html
comprehension my friend.
The question is…then vs now

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@eladar said
@vivify
KkK guys like Robert Byrd?
David Duke endorsed Trump multiple times, and the KKK's official newspaper endorsed Trump.


@vivify said
David Duke endorsed Trump multiple times, and the KKK's official newspaper endorsed Trump.
So kkk like Robert Byrd.

Are you making the claim that Trump is a member of the kkk like Robert Byrd?