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  1. 04 Dec '12 21:56
    Looks like the tea partiers and evangelicals are still in force in the Republican Party.

    Poll: Herman Cain tops Saxby Chambliss in primary

    Herman Cain would crush Sen. Saxby Chambliss in a Republican primary if the pizza mogul were to run in 2014, according to a poll released Tuesday.
    Cain led Chambliss (R-Ga.) 50 percent to 36 percent in a survey from Public Policy Polling.

    Of those surveyed, 45 percent approved of the job the incumbent is doing, while 36 percent disapproved. In contrast, 68 percent said they had a favorable opinion of Cain, the former presidential hopeful, and 20 percent had an unfavorable view.

    The bulk of those questioned said they wanted a GOP Senate nominee to the right of Chambliss: 43 percent said they preferred someone more conservative than he is, while 38 percent said they wanted him to stay the nominee.

    “I’m a problem-solver and a lot of people don’t want problem-solvers — they’d rather have the issue,” Chambliss told POLITICO earlier this week. “And I’m very open at home that I’m going to continue to work hard to solve problems because our country’s in trouble, and you can’t do it without Democrats and Republicans working together.”


    http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/poll-herman-cain-tops-saxby-chambliss-in-primary-84567.html
  2. 06 Dec '12 20:26
    Does anyone wish Herman Cain would run for the Georgia Senate seat?
  3. Standard member sh76
    Civis Americanus Sum
    06 Dec '12 23:26
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Looks like the tea partiers and evangelicals are still in force in the Republican Party.

    [quote][b]Poll: Herman Cain tops Saxby Chambliss in primary


    Herman Cain would crush Sen. Saxby Chambliss in a Republican primary if the pizza mogul were to run in 2014, according to a poll released Tuesday.
    Cain led Chambliss (R-Ga.) 50 percent to 36 percent ...[text shortened]... ttp://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/poll-herman-cain-tops-saxby-chambliss-in-primary-84567.html[/b]
    2014?

    Let's relax a little on the horse race polling, okay? We just had an election.

    As for Cain, while 9/9/9 was simplistic nonsense, he doesn't strike me as being any worse or more extreme than most politicians.
  4. Standard member Soothfast
    0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21,
    06 Dec '12 23:58
    Originally posted by sh76
    2014?

    Let's relax a little on the horse race polling, okay? We just had an election.

    As for Cain, while 9/9/9 was simplistic nonsense, he doesn't strike me as being any worse or more extreme than most politicians.
    Cain is just the sort of clown the Cirque du GOP needs under its big top to stay competitive with Barnum & Bailey and Ringling Bros.
  5. 07 Dec '12 01:03 / 2 edits
    Originally posted by sh76
    2014?

    Let's relax a little on the horse race polling, okay? We just had an election.

    As for Cain, while 9/9/9 was simplistic nonsense, he doesn't strike me as being any worse or more extreme than most politicians.
    At least he showed he was very informed about foreign policy/events including the Libyan conflict and our involvement in the Libyan conflict.
  6. 07 Dec '12 01:11
    Originally posted by moon1969
    Looks like the tea partiers and evangelicals are still in force in the Republican Party.

    [quote][b]Poll: Herman Cain tops Saxby Chambliss in primary


    Herman Cain would crush Sen. Saxby Chambliss in a Republican primary if the pizza mogul were to run in 2014, according to a poll released Tuesday.
    Cain led Chambliss (R-Ga.) 50 percent to 36 percent ...[text shortened]... ttp://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/poll-herman-cain-tops-saxby-chambliss-in-primary-84567.html[/b]
    Sorry, I only vote for Tea Party candidates who are witches.
  7. 07 Dec '12 01:12
    Originally posted by sh76
    2014?

    Let's relax a little on the horse race polling, okay? We just had an election.

    As for Cain, while 9/9/9 was simplistic nonsense, he doesn't strike me as being any worse or more extreme than most politicians.
    He could be speaker of the House. He can't be any worse than the current one or the one before him.
  8. 07 Dec '12 01:27
    “Here’s why I support de-funding Planned Parenthood, because you don’t hear a lot of people talking about this: When Margaret Sanger--check my history--started Planned Parenthood, the objective was to put these centers in primarily black communities so they could help kill black babies before they came into the world,” Cain said.

    “You don’t see that talked that much about,” Cain said. “It’s not Planned Parenthood. No, it’s planned genocide. You can quote me on that.” --Herman Cain
  9. 07 Dec '12 01:31 / 1 edit
    1. The Libya brain freeze

    Quote: "OK, Libya. [pause] President Obama supported the uprising, correct? President Obama called for the removal of Gadhafi. I just wanted to make sure we're talking about the same thing before I say, 'Yes, I agreed' or 'No I didn't agree.' I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason — nope, that's a different one. [pause] I gotta go back and see. I got all this stuff twirling around in my head. Specifically, what are you asking me that I agree or not disagree with Obama?" (Nov. 14 2011, in response to a question from the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel editorial board)

    Reaction: "I don't think Herman Cain is stupid," says Daniel Drezner at Foreign Policy. But after this "painful to watch" Libya exchange, it's "manifestly obvious" that he's "willfully ignorant about anything to do with foreign policy."

    2. The off-topic response

    Quote: "9-9-9." (Nov. 14, evading a question from NBC's Andrew Rafferty over whether Cain's "Libya gaf 2011fe builds on the idea he doesn't have in-depth knowledge of foreign policy"

    Reaction: Cain is responding to "a serious question about his depth of knowledge and preparedness for office with a non sequitur," and not even a very good one, says Jonathan Capehart at The Washington Post. Some of my media colleagues may not feel comfortable hammering an "ignoramus," but "I have no such qualms." Cain's "time in the big leagues is drawing to a close."

    3. The anti-intellectual rhyme

    Quote: "We need a leader, not a reader." (Nov. 17 2011, campaign stop in Nashua, New Hampshire)

    Reaction: Besides the obvious issues with the anti-book sentiment, says Eric Kleefeld at Talking Points Memo, Cain actually lifted this line from the fictionalized "President Schwarzenegger" in The Simpsons Movie. And that stings, says The Atlantic's Molly Ball, because "all along, Cain has been a sort of cartoon version of a presidential candidate, entertaining, silly, and preposterously exaggerated."


    4. The imagined language

    Quote: "How do you say 'delicious' in Cuban?" (Nov. 16, campaign stop in Miami's "Little Havana" neighborhood)

    Reaction: "There are Cuban sandwiches, there are Cuban cigars, but there is no Cuban language," says Sara Gilford at The Daily Beast. Sure, Cain was just trying to indulge in the local culture, but "if the Cain train doesn't make it to the White House, [perhaps] it can head to Cuba for some linguistic invention."

    5. The ice cream pejorative

    Quote: "Michele Bachmann... I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to say it.... Tutti-frutti. I know I’m going to get in trouble!" (Mid-October, responding to a GQ writer's request that he liken his rivals to ice-cream flavors)

    Reaction: This all started when Sarah Palin called Cain a "flavor of the week," and he countered that he was more substantial, like Häagen-Dazs' (long discontinued) Black Walnut, notes The Daily Beast's Gilford. Calling Bachmann "tutti-frutti" may not endear Cain to women, but to be fair, he does demonstrate an impressive "knack for needling his Republican primary opponents with ice cream flavors," says Tim Mak at Politico. Mitt Romney is "plain vanilla," and Rick Perry is "rocky road." Ouch.

    6. The Pokémon poet

    Quote: "A poet once said, 'Life can be a challenge, life can seem impossible, but it's never easy when there's so much on the line.'" (Aug. 11 Republican debate)

    Reaction: On the surface, there's nothing wrong with that little bit of inspirational fluff, says Dan Amira at New York. But then "you Google the quote and you realize that these words of wisdom were uttered not by a poet, but by disco queen Donna Summer in her song 'The Power of One,'" an obscure number she recorded for Pokémon: The Movie 2000.

    7. The "sissy pizza"

    Quote: "The more toppings a man has on his pizza, I believe the more manly he is…. Because the more manly man is not afraid of abundance.... A manly man don't want it piled high with vegetables! He would call that a sissy pizza." (Mid-October GQ interview)

    Reaction: "On the spectrum of offensive terms," says Mary Elizabeth Williams at Salon, "sissy" isn't "high-threat-level incendiary." But employing a word that's used "primarily as an adjective for all things swishy and supergay, and secondarily as 'just not quite Chuck Norris-level manly," betrays "a certain grotesqueness of character." What Cain's "cheap shot" is apparently saying is, "I'm so insecure about my gender identity I have to go looking for it in the toppings on a pizza."

    8. The royal Pelosi insult

    Quote: "We didn't hear about it in the previous Congress because Princess Nancy sent to it committee and it stayed there." (Nov. 9 Republican debate, referencing a bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act)

    Reaction: Calling the "highest-ranking female official in U.S. history" princess is "clueless," says Melinda Henneberger at The Washington Post. Even if you "ignore the fact that the term 'princess' is only socially acceptable for those with the last name Middleton," says The Daily Beast's Gilford, it's kind of shocking "how long Cain stood by the joke," given his weakness with female voters.

    9. The mangled nation

    Quote: "I'm ready for the 'gotcha' questions and they're already starting to come. And when they ask me who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan I'm going to say, you know, I don't know. Do you know? And then I'm going to say, 'How's that going to create one job?'" (Oct. 7 interview with CBN News' David Brody)

    Reaction: Cain's boastful ignorance of this key, mercurial U.S. military ally was "so outlandish that even foreign leaders are picking up on [it]," says Ali Gharib at ThinkProgress. Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai brought up the Uzbekistan comment with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and they had a good laugh at Cain's expense
  10. 07 Dec '12 21:27
    I am still wondering how many of the Republican tea partiers here in the debate forum would vote for Herman Cain to be their Senator.