Go back
California Democrats Go to Bat for Prison Lifers

California Democrats Go to Bat for Prison Lifers

Debates

Earl of Trumps
Pawn Whisperer

My Kingdom fora Pawn

Joined
09 Jan 19
Moves
20432
Clock
03 Sep 23

California Dem-led committee advances bill to let killers serving life without parole request re-sentencing

A bill that would allow killers serving a life sentence without parole to possibly be re-sentenced cleared a major hurdle Friday in California's Democratic-led state Legislature.

https://news.yahoo.com/california-dem-led-committee-advances-005604380.html
------------------------------------------------------

They're serious????

California has some insurmountable crime problems at the moment.
See how the Dems react to it all? Let the lifers out!! You go Dems!!

AThousandYoung
1st Dan TKD Kukkiwon

tinyurl.com/2te6yzdu

Joined
23 Aug 04
Moves
26757
Clock
03 Sep 23

@earl-of-trumps said
California Dem-led committee advances bill to let killers serving life without parole request re-sentencing

A bill that would allow killers serving a life sentence without parole to possibly be re-sentenced cleared a major hurdle Friday in California's Democratic-led state Legislature.

https://news.yahoo.com/california-dem-led-committee-advances-005 ...[text shortened]... crime problems at the moment.
See how the Dems react to it all? Let the lifers out!! You go Dems!!
The prisons are too full by far. What can you do?

shavixmir
Lord

Sewers of Holland

Joined
31 Jan 04
Moves
89784
Clock
03 Sep 23
Vote Up
Vote Down

@earl-of-trumps said
California Dem-led committee advances bill to let killers serving life without parole request re-sentencing

A bill that would allow killers serving a life sentence without parole to possibly be re-sentenced cleared a major hurdle Friday in California's Democratic-led state Legislature.

https://news.yahoo.com/california-dem-led-committee-advances-005 ...[text shortened]... crime problems at the moment.
See how the Dems react to it all? Let the lifers out!! You go Dems!!
What’s the reasoning behind it?

Earl of Trumps
Pawn Whisperer

My Kingdom fora Pawn

Joined
09 Jan 19
Moves
20432
Clock
03 Sep 23

@athousandyoung said
The prisons are too full by far. What can you do?
For one, build more prisons. Because for a while, California will need them.
Next, start *enforcing* the laws. And that includes the state police helping with the organized crime/thefts.

It will take a lot to get crime back to a decent level, kits if time

Earl of Trumps
Pawn Whisperer

My Kingdom fora Pawn

Joined
09 Jan 19
Moves
20432
Clock
03 Sep 23

@shavixmir said
What’s the reasoning behind it?
lessen the overcrowding, I believe.

Z

Joined
04 Feb 05
Moves
29132
Clock
03 Sep 23
Vote Up
Vote Down

@athousandyoung said
The prisons are too full by far. What can you do?
you're being sarcastic, right?

vivify
rain

Joined
08 Mar 11
Moves
12456
Clock
03 Sep 23
Vote Up
Vote Down

This doesn't make any sense. There are so many other problems Cali Dems can focus on like finding solutions to the homelessness problem or insane housing costs, yet this is what they waste their time doing.

I'm all for reduced sentences for certain crimes like drug use. But murder? There's so much more Dems should be doing than crap like this.

E

Joined
02 Sep 23
Moves
12
Clock
03 Sep 23
Vote Up
Vote Down

@vivify said
This doesn't make any sense. There are so many other problems Cali Dems can focus on like finding solutions to the homelessness problem or insane housing costs, yet this is what they waste their time doing.

I'm all for reduced sentences for certain crimes like drug use. But murder? There's so much more Dems should be doing than crap like this.
Yes, how many people are in jail for marijuana use? That is like locking up those who drink(which does more harm to society than marijuana use).

Mott The Hoople

Joined
05 Nov 06
Moves
147484
Clock
03 Sep 23

@earl-of-trumps said
California Dem-led committee advances bill to let killers serving life without parole request re-sentencing

A bill that would allow killers serving a life sentence without parole to possibly be re-sentenced cleared a major hurdle Friday in California's Democratic-led state Legislature.

https://news.yahoo.com/california-dem-led-committee-advances-005 ...[text shortened]... crime problems at the moment.
See how the Dems react to it all? Let the lifers out!! You go Dems!!
dems have made prisons a desirable place.

bring back work gangs, let them earn their keep

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
03 Sep 23
2 edits

@earl-of-trumps said
California Dem-led committee advances bill to let killers serving life without parole request re-sentencing

A bill that would allow killers serving a life sentence without parole to possibly be re-sentenced cleared a major hurdle Friday in California's Democratic-led state Legislature.

https://news.yahoo.com/california-dem-led-committee-advances-005 ...[text shortened]... crime problems at the moment.
See how the Dems react to it all? Let the lifers out!! You go Dems!!
A good idea. It would only apply to those convicted of crimes that occurred before 1990 and who have already served 25 years in prison. It would give a judge discretion to release, not automatically grant it.

Keeping octogenarians in prison makes little sense.

EDIT: Here's the proposed statute: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB94/id/2829048

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
03 Sep 23

@earl-of-trumps said
For one, build more prisons. Because for a while, California will need them.
Next, start *enforcing* the laws. And that includes the state police helping with the organized crime/thefts.

It will take a lot to get crime back to a decent level, kits if time
The "libertarian" wants more prisons!

"The United States leads the world in total number of people incarcerated, with more than 2 million prisoners nationwide (per data released in October 2021 by World Prison Brief). This number is equivalent to roughly 25% of the world's total prison population and leads to an incarceration rate of 629 people per 100,000—the highest rate in the world. The prison populations in each U.S. state vary from one to the next, with the highest rates in Louisiana and Oklahoma. Overall, the incarceration rate in the U.S. has skyrocketed in the past decade—the prison population was a mere 200,000 in 1972, less than a tenth of today's total. However, the current rate is the lowest it has been in 20 years."

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/incarceration-rates-by-country

Mott The Hoople

Joined
05 Nov 06
Moves
147484
Clock
03 Sep 23

@no1marauder said
The "libertarian" wants more prisons!

"The United States leads the world in total number of people incarcerated, with more than 2 million prisoners nationwide (per data released in October 2021 by World Prison Brief). This number is equivalent to roughly 25% of the world's total prison population and leads to an incarceration rate of 629 people per 100,000—the highest ...[text shortened]... in 20 years."

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/incarceration-rates-by-country
you fail to mention a remedy

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
03 Sep 23
1 edit

@mott-the-hoople said
you fail to mention a remedy
Put less people in prison? Not have such harsh sentences?

Mott The Hoople

Joined
05 Nov 06
Moves
147484
Clock
03 Sep 23

@no1marauder said
A good idea. It would only apply to those convicted of crimes that occurred before 1990 and who have already served 25 years in prison. It would give a judge discretion to release, not automatically grant it.

Keeping octogenarians in prison makes little sense.

EDIT: Here's the proposed statute: https://legiscan.com/CA/text/SB94/id/2829048
letting them out to kill again is the answer?

no1marauder
Naturally Right

Somewhere Else

Joined
22 Jun 04
Moves
42677
Clock
03 Sep 23
1 edit

@mott-the-hoople said
letting them out to kill again is the answer?
How many 80 year olds "kill again"?

I'm sure you or someone will find an isolated case or two but keeping these people in prison with all the associated costs is senseless.

Cookies help us deliver our Services. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Learn More.