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25 Aug 06
25 Aug 06
Hurricane and storm season has already begun, with a few minor storms that havn't really touched the US. However, the next 2 months will undoubtedly bring about a few rather large hurricanes that will threaten areas of the United States.
I bring this up because i just read this article:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/25/levee.report/index.html
All they are doing is just talking about how to rebuild and figuring out what went wrong. They are saying "there is no quick fix." What if.....just what if, they get hit again this year? They should be very, very worried, and I hear no talk of worry about the coming season. I would not want to be anywhere near new orleans for the next 2 months. Can they survive if any size hurricane hits them? Do you feel they are doing all they can do to fix the situation?
25 Aug 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsThey need to ask the Dutch for advise on building storm-proof dykes because obviously the Army Corps of Engineers has no clue. Have they done so?....naw, just waiting for Katrina II...
Hurricane and storm season has already begun, with a few minor storms that havn't really touched the US. However, the next 2 months will undoubtedly bring about a few rather large hurricanes that will threaten areas of the United States.
I bring this up because i just read this article:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/25/levee.report/index.html
A ...[text shortened]... ny size hurricane hits them? Do you feel they are doing all they can do to fix the situation?
25 Aug 06
Originally posted by PocketKingsOf course they'll survive. No one, not even nature, has ever managed to slow up gambling, drinking, drugs, prostitution and jazz for long. Though perhaps people should not insist on living in a depression between a large river, large lake and large gulf.
Hurricane and storm season has already begun, with a few minor storms that havn't really touched the US. However, the next 2 months will undoubtedly bring about a few rather large hurricanes that will threaten areas of the United States.
I bring this up because i just read this article:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/08/25/levee.report/index.html
A ...[text shortened]... ny size hurricane hits them? Do you feel they are doing all they can do to fix the situation?
26 Aug 06
Originally posted by DelmerGood point...but give up trolling for hookers? 😞 😉
Of course they'll survive. No one, not even nature, has ever managed to slow up gambling, drinking, drugs, prostitution and jazz for long. Though perhaps people should not insist on living in a depression between a large river, large lake and large gulf.
26 Aug 06
Originally posted by HumeANo, they should learn from the Dutch. I'm simply amazed that the moronic mayor of N.O. hasn't consulted with Dutch engineers. Should Holland be abandoned simply because their dykes are holding back the North Sea successfully and have been for years?
Should N.O. be abandonned? Or should man continue to attempt to defy nature?
26 Aug 06
Originally posted by HumeAShould be abandonned and it mostly is already..
Should N.O. be abandonned? Or should man continue to attempt to defy nature?
Pimps, cheep whores, gang-bangers, grifters and failed politicans are all that remain.
Back off about 50 miles, wait 50 yrs and lets go fishin'.
26 Aug 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicRay Nagan is amazing. I've never seen anyone play the victim hand like him. When a reporter asked him about all the abandoned cars still in New Orleans, he basically said "Come on, give me a break. They have a big concrete hole in NYC (World Trade Center) that they haven't fixed in 5 years.
No, they should learn from the Dutch. I'm simply amazed that the moronic mayor of N.O. hasn't consulted with Dutch engineers. Should Holland be abandoned simply because their dykes are holding back the North Sea successfully and have been for years?
26 Aug 06
All they are doing is just talking about how to rebuild and figuring out what went wrong. ?[/b]What went wrong is that they build their city 50 feet under sea level so when the sea comes in unless their bulidings can float "their gonna have a bad time."
PLus that comment about rolling for hooker was funny
26 Aug 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicMoney has been the issue not incompetance. Money has a way of 'disappearing' in Louisianna. For years the Corps and others had been requesting funding to overhaul the levees... sadly, short sighted politicians failed to take the necessary steps. The engineers can do the work, but, they aren't being given sufficient resources... this is an almost criminal act... they really need a task force led by a single stron person with sufficient funding and authority... unfortunately, it may be too late.
They need to ask the Dutch for advise on building storm-proof dykes because obviously the Army Corps of Engineers has no clue. Have they done so?....naw, just waiting for Katrina II...
26 Aug 06
Originally posted by chancremechanicSorry CM, But I don't really think a City Mayor controls Federal spending and funding of a national/State project like a levee project that is maintained by the National Army Corps of Engineers. Nice try but you got the wrong guy. The Corp of Engineers is responsible for contacting any Dutch agencies if that is what needs to be done. That project is out of his control. The funding was signed by the Clinton administration. But the funding was reversed under the Bush administration.
No, they should learn from the Dutch. I'm simply amazed that the moronic mayor of N.O. hasn't consulted with Dutch engineers. Should Holland be abandoned simply because their dykes are holding back the North Sea successfully and have been for years?
27 Aug 06
Originally posted by HumeAI wish I knew less about this...
Should N.O. be abandonned? Or should man continue to attempt to defy nature?
It is so ugly. Basically, they should abandon the Lower 9th Ward, New Orleans East, lots of St. Bernard Parish, and most of Lake View as Green Space. These are the "bowls" the FEMA and state engineers talk about. But they won't. There is and will be more good money after bad. You have never seen anything so depressing. All I could ask myself last October touring the region was, "Where do you start?"
Good people, screwed by history. And this was a town where subsistence living was a high art.
27 Aug 06
Originally posted by cashthetrashGood point...
Sorry CM, But I don't really think a City Mayor controls Federal spending and funding of a national/State project like a levee project that is maintained by the National Army Corps of Engineers. Nice try but you got the wrong guy. The Corp of Engineers is responsible for contacting any Dutch agencies if that is what needs to be done. That project is out ...[text shortened]... gned by the Clinton administration. But the funding was reversed under the Bush administration.
27 Aug 06
Originally posted by avantguardExcellent post, avantguard.
I wish I knew less about this...
It is so ugly. Basically, they should abandon the Lower 9th Ward, New Orleans East, lots of St. Bernard Parish, and most of Lake View as Green Space. These are the "bowls" the FEMA and state engineers talk about. But they won't. There is and will be more good money after bad. You have never seen anything so depressing. Al ...[text shortened]... od people, screwed by history. And this was a town where subsistence living was a high art.