The post that was quoted here has been removedWell, perhaps you hit on 2 things that most Americans don't like to discuss.
1. America is NOT that "great shining city on the hill" that good old Ronnie Reagan described.
2. Americans are the hillbillys of the industrialized world. Rude, crude, and ignornant.
Originally posted by bill718I agree that the US is not the shining city on the hill. We have rejected what has made this country great.
Well, perhaps you hit on 2 things that most Americans don't like to discuss.
1. America is NOT that "great shining city on the hill" that good old Ronnie Reagan described.
2. Americans are the hillbillys of the industrialized world. Rude, crude, and ignornant.
Yes, the US has some really horrible problems with a bunch of totally screwed up people, but that has its roots in multiculturalism and the desturctive aspects of Socialism that have been inflicted on my society.
Originally posted by bill718I know several people whom you might consider hillbillies that could spell ignorant correctly, so they have that going for them. Certainly I would classify you as rude, crude, and ignorant. Fortunately, I don't consider you representative of the population as a whole.
Well, perhaps you hit on 2 things that most Americans don't like to discuss.
1. America is NOT that "great shining city on the hill" that good old Ronnie Reagan described.
2. Americans are the hillbillys of the industrialized world. Rude, crude, and ignornant.
The post that was quoted here has been removedWithout knocking America or Americans, I think there is a possible negative correlation between ethnocentrism and foreign travel (overseas - the report cited below leaves out travel to Canada and Mexico). A small fraction of Americans travel overseas. Limited exposure to people in their home habitat and limited exposure to other cultures (using their public transit, buying groceries, other everyday dealings, going to the symphony, etc.) fosters an insular and distorted view that reinforces stereotypes. It's a sort of chicken and egg situation. In some of our travels, my wife and I have had times when the people we met were agog at what was going on in the US -- as were we (example: the 2000 presidential election, which we had to try to explain to some Kiwis). More exposure to one anothers' cultures, both ways, brings more understanding and acceptance. Lea Jacobson experienced the results of limited exposure in the US, and also, it must be said, exhibited some of the results herself.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-d-chalmers/the-great-american-passpo_b_1920287.html
Originally posted by bill718It is really difficult to culturally identify Americans. Culture in America is extremely diverse, perhaps more so than other countries.
Well, perhaps you hit on 2 things that most Americans don't like to discuss.
1. America is NOT that "great shining city on the hill" that good old Ronnie Reagan described.
2. Americans are the hillbillys of the industrialized world. Rude, crude, and ignornant.
I was in culture shock when I moved almost 50 years ago from Boston to Detroit. Now it is not shock but enjoyable curiosity to visit places like the Michigan UP, or Alabama, Texas, or Minnesota and see folks with entirely different outlooks and habits, but with some threads of America running through them all.
If you are so negatively impacted with American culture, I would find a more suitable place to live.
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The post that was quoted here has been removedI lived abroad for a few years, and traveled extensively, thoroughout Europe. I gained more of an appreciation for what it means to be home. I saw Kurdish refugees by the tens of thousands all over Europe. I think the subject of your OP just developed a different sense of home, although I think some period of adaptation back home would be normal. I'd also think that pop culture fluency would be less important than boorish behavior in a bar.
A good friend of mine is currently with the State Department in Japan. He loves the culture. I think there's a lot to love about America too.
Originally posted by sasquatch672My son and his best friend have talked for years about working in Japan for a couple of years, but he seems settled on a homegrown Vietnamese girlfriend, so I don't think he's going anywhere.
I lived abroad for a few years, and traveled extensively, thoroughly Europe. I gained more of an appreciation for what it means to be home. I saw Kurdish refugees by the tens of thousands all over Europe. I think the subject of your OP just developed a different sense of home, although I think some period of adaptation back home would be normal. I'd ...[text shortened]... Department in Japan. He loves the culture. I think there's a lot to love about America too.
Originally posted by bill718Speak for your damn self....
Well, perhaps you hit on 2 things that most Americans don't like to discuss.
1. America is NOT that "great shining city on the hill" that good old Ronnie Reagan described.
2. Americans are the hillbillys of the industrialized world. Rude, crude, and ignornant.
Originally posted by EladarWell stated...
I agree that the US is not the shining city on the hill. We have rejected what has made this country great.
Yes, the US has some really horrible problems with a bunch of totally screwed up people, but that has its roots in multiculturalism and the desturctive aspects of Socialism that have been inflicted on my society.
Originally posted by dryhumpWell stated....
I know several people whom you might consider hillbillies that could spell ignorant correctly, so they have that going for them. Certainly I would classify you as rude, crude, and ignorant. Fortunately, I don't consider you representative of the population as a whole.