@metal-brain saidAll countries use censorship.
When in world history has censorship ever been done by good guys?
Censorship is anti democracy. That is why you have to be convinced you want censorship to protect democracy. That is the real big lie.
You can’t plan a D-day and simultaniously tell everyone what you’re doing.
30 Apr 23
@shavixmir saidThe psued known as shag doody for brains, that is not censorship, that is a matter of contract, a condition of employment. One party agrees with the other party that they will not disclose information to a third party, v o l u n t a r i l y.
All countries use censorship.
You can’t plan a D-day and simultaniously tell everyone what you’re doing.
@shavixmir saidThat is war. I am not talking about war and they do not usually censor. They deliberately spread disinformation to throw off the enemy. Remember how our news media reported that we were going to invade Iraq with an amphibious attack on the shore and it never happened?
All countries use censorship.
You can’t plan a D-day and simultaniously tell everyone what you’re doing.
30 Apr 23
@wajoma saidFukk for brains. It is exactly censorship.
The psued known as shag doody for brains, that is not censorship, that is a matter of contract, a condition of employment. One party agrees with the other party that they will not disclose information to a third party, v o l u n t a r i l y.
Same as redaction is censorship.
Really, if you’re gonna open yer gob, do it somewhere less pleasant.
@metal-brain saidOf course there is censorship in war. And spreading disinformation too.
That is war. I am not talking about war and they do not usually censor. They deliberately spread disinformation to throw off the enemy. Remember how our news media reported that we were going to invade Iraq with an amphibious attack on the shore and it never happened?
Censorship happens outside of wartime too.
Secret services, for example.
But there are also gagging orders, etc.
There’s also censorship of news stories, often to protect people.
You can’t run a country without censorship.
30 Apr 23
@shavixmir saidMy first thought when the word censorship popped up? Our children. Shav is correct, a country, a society of people, has a first and foremost obligation to our children. Obscenity, etc, can ruin a child. It is impossible for a parent to teach right from wrong to a child, when the child is overwhelmed with the wrong.
Of course there is censorship in war. And spreading disinformation too.
Censorship happens outside of wartime too.
Secret services, for example.
But there are also gagging orders, etc.
There’s also censorship of news stories, often to protect people.
You can’t run a country without censorship.
So, our issue might be, what is obscenity, and we all would differ on that.
30 Apr 23
@shavixmir saidI was referring to the news media, not war. Tucker did not reveal any top secret information.
Of course there is censorship in war. And spreading disinformation too.
Censorship happens outside of wartime too.
Secret services, for example.
But there are also gagging orders, etc.
There’s also censorship of news stories, often to protect people.
You can’t run a country without censorship.
@metal-brain saidThe title is censorship and world history.
I was referring to the news media, not war. Tucker did not reveal any top secret information.
30 Apr 23
@metal-brain saidThe idea of censorship is to protect people.
When in world history has censorship ever been done by good guys?
Censorship is anti democracy. That is why you have to be convinced you want censorship to protect democracy. That is the real big lie.
For example, suppose one finds out the real name and address of Metal Brain and makes an open, public call to murder Metal Brain.
For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts.
The problem with censorship, however, is that it can be misused, and as a rule, it will be misused.
For example, Facebook's censorship doesn't follow its own written rules.
Facebook takes down absolutely innocent posts simply because some group of people does not like such facts, ideas, etc.
At the same time, Facebook does not take down even highly criminal posts if the victims are politically "justified victims".
In that way, Facebook censors facts that are proven and important, and endorses violence against, for example, Russians.
It means that Facebook's censorship is ideologically/politically motivated and biased.
The same applies to many other Big Tech platforms, for example, Twitter and Google.
It means that often, censorship is misused; it is applied not to protect people but as a weapon to spread one's ideology and suppress everything that is critical concerning it.
Everything that is initially good is finally used by bad guys.
Everything.
Now, if bad guys are using censorship on Facebook to promote their politics, then all countries that are suffering from that biased censorship on Facebook are justified to censor Facebook and ban it, block it.
This is how I understand these issues.
For example, those countries who have banned Wikipedia have done the right thing because Wikipedia in fact is not an encyclopedia but a propaganda machine.
01 May 23
@AverageJoe1
Ah, OUR children. I guess that doesn't count for those eight dead children held in cages by the thousands.
You are SUCH a hypocrite.
@eintaluj said"For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts."
The idea of censorship is to protect people.
For example, suppose one finds out the real name and address of Metal Brain and makes an open, public call to murder Metal Brain.
For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts.
The problem with censorship, however, is that it can be misused, and as a rule, it will be misused.
For example, Facebook' ...[text shortened]... have done the right thing because Wikipedia in fact is not an encyclopedia but a propaganda machine.
That is criminal as you already said. Tucker did not break any laws.
https://reclaimthenet.org/rfk-jr-on-censorship
@metal-brain saidWhy are you so hot for tucker?
"For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts."
That is criminal as you already said. Tucker did not break any laws.
https://reclaimthenet.org/rfk-jr-on-censorship
He was sacked because he is a lying piece of 💩, a nasty git, a pedler of conspiracies and a disgusting semi-human being; not because he was breaking laws.
01 May 23
@metal-brain saidI did not say anything about Tucker. I responded to your initial general view about censorship.
"For example, the messenger app Telegram bans such criminal posts."
That is criminal as you already said. Tucker did not break any laws.
https://reclaimthenet.org/rfk-jr-on-censorship