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  1. Standard membervivify
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    27 Mar '18 16:33
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/03/26/citizenship-question-put-back-2020-census/461044002/

    Citizenship question to be put back on the 2020 Census for first time in 70 years

    The Commerce Department is reinstating a citizenship question to the 2020 Census for the first time in decades, a move that some argue will lead to an undercount of minorities living in the United States.

    The U.S. Census Bureau counts the total number of people in the country — not the total number of citizens — every 10 years. Though it usually doesn't ask about a person's citizenship status, the Justice Department asked the agency late last year to include the question. It is the first time the government has done that in 70 years.

    The Census count is used to redraw congressional districts, so it can affect the makeup of Congress, and to determine where federal, state and local funds will be used to build new schools, roads, health care facilities, child-care centers and senior centers. It also forms the basis of countless government and academic studies that drive public policy decisions and legislation from Washington, D.C., to statehouses and city halls.

    n a statement released Monday night, the Commerce Department said the question was being added to help enforce the Voting Rights Act. The department pointed out that previous Census surveys before 1950 consistently asked citizenship questions.

    Critics were quick to blast the department's justification, however, saying the move was designed to undercount immigrants and minorities.

    Former attorney general Eric Holder, now with the National Democratic Redistricting Committee, said Tuesday morning that he would sue the administration to block the question from the Census. He said asking about citizenship has nothing to do with voting rights.

    "Make no mistake – this decision is motivated purely by politics," Holder said. "In deciding to add this question without even testing its effects, the Administration is departing from decades of census policy and ignoring the warnings of census experts."
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    27 Mar '18 17:17
    Originally posted by @vivify
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/03/26/citizenship-question-put-back-2020-census/461044002/

    [b]Citizenship question to be put back on the 2020 Census for first time in 70 years

    The Commerce Department is reinstating a citizenship question to the 2020 Census for the first time in decades, a move that some argue wil ...[text shortened]... is departing from decades of census policy and ignoring the warnings of census experts."
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    Ahhh yeah...gun running, contempt of court holder...liberals just cant get enough.
  3. Standard membervivify
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    28 Mar '18 22:47
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    Ahhh yeah...gun running, contempt of court holder...liberals just cant get enough.
    Speaking of contempt of court, hows Joe Arpaio who Trump pardoned doing?
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    28 Mar '18 22:50
    Originally posted by @vivify
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/03/26/citizenship-question-put-back-2020-census/461044002/

    [b]Citizenship question to be put back on the 2020 Census for first time in 70 years

    The Commerce Department is reinstating a citizenship question to the 2020 Census for the first time in decades, a move that some argue wil ...[text shortened]... is departing from decades of census policy and ignoring the warnings of census experts."
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    The next census is in two years, when there will be elections for the senate. This is an obvious political move by Republicans.
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    28 Mar '18 23:39
    Originally posted by @vivify
    Speaking of contempt of court, hows Joe Arpaio who Trump pardoned doing?
    didn't no anyone was killed by joes guns...
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    28 Mar '18 23:41
    Originally posted by @vivify
    The next census is in two years, when there will be elections for the senate. This is an obvious political move by Republicans.
    LOL...IDIOT!
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    29 Mar '18 23:51
    Originally posted by @vivify
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2018/03/26/citizenship-question-put-back-2020-census/461044002/

    [b]Citizenship question to be put back on the 2020 Census for first time in 70 years

    The Commerce Department is reinstating a citizenship question to the 2020 Census for the first time in decades, a move that some argue wil ...[text shortened]... is departing from decades of census policy and ignoring the warnings of census experts."
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    I'd prefer to have this question decided by the courts, and not by a bunch of political hacks on TV. I'll wait for an official verdict.
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    30 Mar '18 02:29
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    didn't no anyone was killed by joes guns...
    However, plenty of people were killed by Arpaio's "goons". He cost Maricopa County in Arizona over 30 million dollars in lawsuits and settlements.

    Good riddance.
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    30 Mar '18 02:292 edits
    Originally posted by @mchill
    I'd prefer to have this question decided by the courts, and not by a bunch of political hacks on TV. I'll wait for an official verdict.
    You don't need to be a "hack" to see it's an obvious Republican ploy.

    Let's weigh the pros and cons:

    On the one hand, non-citizens can't vote anyway; so if their inclusion on the census affects voting districts, voting districts aren't properly represented.

    On the other hand, non-citizens are often productive members of society who not only pay taxes but are business owners who boost the local economy. Here's one immigrant who owned a business and was deported after living in the U.S. for 40 years and was a "pillar of the community:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-immigration-policy-business-owner-deported-40-years-us-amer-adi-ohio-jordan-a8203126.html

    So this question could lead to problems for many law-abiding productive non-citizens, many of whom are college-educated.

    There's also the fact that immigrants are still people, legal or not, and should get some sort of representation.
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    30 Mar '18 02:32
    Originally posted by @mott-the-hoople
    LOL...IDIOT!
    Weren't you the one moaning about "name-calling" in another thread?
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