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@metal-brain saidYou are even less fit to have tea with Mr. Putin than you are to post in this thread.
Russia collusion was fake.
Nobody proved Trump colluded with Russia.
Top officials in the Trump campaign are not Trump. Every time you imply that is the same thing you are lying. STOP LYING!
You are also assuming it is illegal to talk to Russians. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The DNC hired Natalya Veselnitskaya to work for them. If Top officials in ...[text shortened]... luded with a Russian official.
You built a house of cards out of double standards. Dude, wake up.
@kevin-eleven saidAn ad hominem attack is all you have? LOL!
You are even less fit to have tea with Mr. Putin than you are to post in this thread.
You have nothing!
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@metal-brain saidI've said multiple times I'm not a judge. I don't have access to all the evidence that the judge reviewed in sentencing.
Russia collusion was fake.
Nobody proved Trump colluded with Russia.
Top officials in the Trump campaign are not Trump. Every time you imply that is the same thing you are lying. STOP LYING!
You are also assuming it is illegal to talk to Russians. That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. The DNC hired Natalya Veselnitskaya to work for them. If Top officials in ...[text shortened]... luded with a Russian official.
You built a house of cards out of double standards. Dude, wake up.
But George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Roger Stone and Michael Cohen are all criminals. All of their criminal charges relate to their activities in the Trump campaign. Within the same investigation, more than a dozen Russian nationals were indicted. These were his top campaign officials (2 of them were his campaign chairs). There's ample evidence that Manafort worked with Kilimnik to incentivize false testimony from witnesses. I don't know Trump was involved, but.... come on.
@wildgrass saidMost of them are criminals for not having perfect memories. There was no intent to deceive in most cases. George P. had no incentive to deliberately lie. All he did was repeat a rumor and didn't have the good sense to say he didn't remember the exact date, probably because they were putting excessive pressure on him.
I've said multiple times I'm not a judge. I don't have access to all the evidence that the judge reviewed in sentencing.
But George Papadopoulos, Paul Manafort, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, Roger Stone and Michael Cohen are all criminals. All of their criminal charges relate to their activities in the Trump campaign. Within the same investigation, more than a dozen Russian ...[text shortened]... nik to incentivize false testimony from witnesses. I don't know Trump was involved, but.... come on.
George P. did nothing wrong. Clinesmith is a criminal by your own standard and he did far worse than George P. did. GP didn't even know the people he was meeting were Russians and they are probably undercover CIA agents sent to set him up.
@wildgrass saidAs in the case of Watergate, the crimes of the high-placed people involved were more about cover-up and lying than about anything substantive.
The title of this thread is Russia collusion was fake. You agreed with that, and now you are denying it. It was not fake. People from multiple continents went to prison. The people in the US who went to prison were top officials in the Trump campaign, who committed the crimes during the campaign.
You can argue that the charges were politically one-sided, but I went throu ...[text shortened]... oo. If a judge reviews the evidence and find them guilty and convicts them, then they are criminals.
@sh76 saidYou are forgetting what they were covering up though. The cover up was a conspiracy to conceal an alleged crime.
As in the case of Watergate, the crimes of the high-placed people involved were more about cover-up and lying than about anything substantive.
With Russiagate there was nothing to cover up. Manafort committed unrelated crimes that had nothing to do with Russia. How does Manafort committing bank fraud prove anything to do with election meddling from the right or Russia? The irony is that the left was implicated in election meddling in the Ukraine regarding Manafort.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/europe/ukraine-paul-manafort.html
Debbie Wasserman Schultz was conspiring to engage in election meddling at the DNC. That is why she was forced to resign in disgrace. The allegation that Russia interfered in our election by hacking and releasing DWS emails proving her nefarious intent to steal the primary from Bernie Sanders is laughable!
Not only would that be a service to US democracy that should be praised, but it was literally used to convince democrats that exposing election meddling is election meddling.......and the brainwashed democrat sheeple fell for the whole pathetic false narrative!!!!!
Democrats think exposing election meddling is election meddling. The complete ignorance of accepting this obvious double think is amazing. I have to admit that is impressive propaganda. They know dividing people with partisan bias can maintain the kind of cognitive dissonance to get people to believe any absurd double standard.
There is nothing more absurd than accepting that exposing election meddling is election meddling. How can intelligent people ignore such obvious basic logic? Do they know it is stupid to defend such a position and just pretend not to know how ridiculous stupid it is, or do they actually believe it?
@Metal-Brain
Hey traitor, keep puking the Putin lies. Our intel folks tracked down the attack to specific servers in all places, RUSSIA.
The more you puke out your BULLSHYTE the more I am convinced you are a Russian asset and probably paid for it.
YOU are the one hating the US.
You NEVER defend the US as a republic, you ONLY attack.
@Metal-Brain
Try reading this, that is if you can actually READ:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-the-russians-hacked-the-dnc-and-passed-its-emails-to-wikileaks/2018/07/13/af19a828-86c3-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html
I guess it is fake news a number of Russian operatives are under indictment for hacking DNC and they know now just exactly how they did it.
But OF COURSE you will continue with your pre programmed LIES about how it is all FAKE and the Russians are SO innocent and how DARE they say anything different.
I hope they are paying you well, you deserve a SPECIAL place in HELL.
@sonhouse saidAn indictment is not a guilty verdict. One comes before the other moron.
@Metal-Brain
Try reading this, that is if you can actually READ:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/how-the-russians-hacked-the-dnc-and-passed-its-emails-to-wikileaks/2018/07/13/af19a828-86c3-11e8-8553-a3ce89036c78_story.html
I guess it is fake news a number of Russian operatives are under indictment for hacking DNC and they know now just exactly h ...[text shortened]... hey say anything different.
I hope they are paying you well, you deserve a SPECIAL place in HELL.
@sonhouse saidI didn't post any lies and you know it.
@Metal-Brain
Hey traitor, keep puking the Putin lies. Our intel folks tracked down the attack to specific servers in all places, RUSSIA.
The more you puke out your BULLSHYTE the more I am convinced you are a Russian asset and probably paid for it.
YOU are the one hating the US.
You NEVER defend the US as a republic, you ONLY attack.
@Metal-Brain
You know for certain, since you are a Russian asset, the indictments against the Russian agents involved in the hacking of DNC will never go to a conviction BECAUSE they are in Russia and protected by your boss PUTIN.
@sonhouse saidYou are an ultra paranoid idiot.
@Metal-Brain
You know for certain, since you are a Russian asset, the indictments against the Russian agents involved in the hacking of DNC will never go to a conviction BECAUSE they are in Russia and protected by your boss PUTIN.
With Russiagate there was nothing to cover up. Manafort committed unrelated crimes that had nothing to do with Russia. How does Manafort committing bank fraud prove anything to do with election meddling from the right or Russia? The irony is that the left was implicated in election meddling in the Ukraine regarding Manafort.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/europe/ukraine-paul-manafort.html
Debbie Wasserman Schultz was conspiring to engage in election meddling at the DNC. That is why she was forced to resign in disgrace. The allegation that Russia interfered in our election by hacking and releasing DWS emails proving her nefarious intent to steal the primary from Bernie Sanders is laughable!
Not only would that be a service to US democracy that should be praised, but it was literally used to convince democrats that exposing election meddling is election meddling.......and the brainwashed democrat sheeple fell for the whole pathetic false narrative!!!!!
Democrats think exposing election meddling is election meddling. The complete ignorance of accepting this obvious double think is amazing. I have to admit that is impressive propaganda. They know dividing people with partisan bias can maintain the kind of cognitive dissonance to get people to believe any absurd double standard.
There is nothing more absurd than accepting that exposing election meddling is election meddling. How can intelligent people ignore such obvious basic logic? Do they know it is stupid to defend such a position and just pretend not to know how ridiculous stupid it is, or do they actually believe it?