@no1marauder saidNo one is claiming the NFL is the government or that it’s legally obligated to do anything. That’s a straw man. Of course it’s a private company, and of course I’m free to change the channel.
It's a football game put on by a private profit making organization, not a Fourth of July parade by the government.
They do what they think will help grow their business and own no obligation to right wing ideas that the event must reflect some "national identity".
Don't like it use your remote or go for a walk or do something else; no one's putting a gun to your head.
The question isn’t permission or coercion—it’s meaning. Private organizations shape culture all the time, especially when their events are wrapped in national symbols. The NFL chooses to frame the Super Bowl with the national anthem, military flyovers, and patriotic rituals because they know it resonates. Once you intentionally use those symbols, it’s reasonable for people to care about how national identity is treated within that same event.
But look at you, calling that concern “right wing”. You avoid the substance of the argument. Valuing national pride and patriotism isn’t a partisan invention. Unbelievable.
We simply disagree on whether patriotism still matters in shared cultural moments. I think it does. You’re free not to—but dismissing the concern doesn’t refute it.
And you discount how the Super Bowl has become an American mainstay, corporate or not. You are giving the rich profit-making corporations preferential recognition over the celebration, a symbolic display of our great country.
In this thread, you say nothing of symbolism. Is that not curious , that you choose to not comment on it when the show is about symbolism?
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@AverageJoe1 saidIt's about football, not "symbolism". It's a celebration of the game, not the country.
No one is claiming the NFL is the government or that it’s legally obligated to do anything. That’s a straw man. Of course it’s a private company, and of course I’m free to change the channel.
The question isn’t permission or coercion—it’s meaning. Private organizations shape culture all the time, especially when their events are wrapped in national symbols. The NFL cho ...[text shortened]... ism. Is that not curious , that you choose to not comment on it when the show is about symbolism?
The halftime show is for entertainment, not a modern version of the Nuremberg rallies.
Super Bowl LX (2026) averaged 124.9 million viewers across NBCUniversal platforms (NBC, Peacock, Telemundo, NFL+), ranking as the second-most-watched U.S. telecast in history, just behind the 2025 record. Despite a 2.2% dip from the previous year, it featured a record 137.8 million peak viewers in the second quarter.
@no1marauder saidYou must define 'it's' if you say that it is about football, Marauder, don't you see? The half time show has never been about football, I don't think there has been on football theme in a halftime show.
It's about football, not "symbolism". It's a celebration of the game, not the country.
The halftime show is for entertainment, not a modern version of the Nuremberg rallies.
AND, (I'm not finished) it is NOT a celebration of the (football) game. It is a display of patriotism and the coming together of all Americans of all (fill in anything here) to be one body, in the shadow of the American Flag. What do. you think all the cheering is for when it is displayed? And the military flyover?????That is not about football. It is an exhibition of power and might..............which, as I understand it, is offennnnnnnsive to liberals.
@AverageJoe1 saidLMAO! You really are clueless.
You must define 'it's' if you say that it is about football, Marauder, don't you see? The half time show has never been about football, I don't think there has been on football theme in a halftime show.
AND, (I'm not finished) it is NOT a celebration of the (football) game. It is a display of patriotism and the coming together of all Americans of all (fill in anythin ...[text shortened]... xhibition of power and might..............which, as I understand it, is offennnnnnnsive to liberals.
Maybe they should just run clips of John Wayne movies rather than invite contemporary artists with world wide appeal.
@no1marauder saidSo,,,,,regarding the OP, which your extrapolated to NFL, corporate profits, xenophobia, global viewers (an element of the issue...other countries).......the OP is simply about a celebration of an entity, which has a symbolic flag, displaying flags of 'select' ** other entities. Why can you not answer the OP question directly.....the debate judges are waiting.
LMAO! You really are clueless.
Maybe they should just run clips of John Wayne movies rather than invite contemporary artists with world wide appeal.
""One of the judges wants to ask, why are there not flags of Yemen and Chad and the Neterlands on the field. This sounds racist to that judge. Suzianne, is it racist to omit countries that are not convenient to Bad Bunny, who Marauder tells us is in charge of the production??
@AverageJoe1 saidBecause it was designed as a salute to America, North and South, and those countries aren't in America.
So,,,,,regarding the OP, which your extrapolated to NFL, corporate profits, xenophobia, global viewers (an element of the issue...other countries).......the OP is simply about a celebration of an entity, which has a symbolic flag, displaying flags of 'select' ** other entities. Why can you not answer the OP question directly.....the debate judges are waiting.
""One o ...[text shortened]... untries that are not convenient to Bad Bunny, who Marauder tells us is in charge of the production??
Your judges really ask some stupid questions.
@AverageJoe1
Sounds like a cool idea your kids got there. Assuming that your kids do not harbor any hostility or resentment towards kids in the other schools in town, why should they not be allowed to show that they consider them self a part of a bigger community of kids across town.
On April 17. we celebrate Sächsilüüte, our traditional spring parade in Zurich, and every year we invite a guest kanton from an other part of Switzerland. They will take part in the parade, with their own kantonal flag. It raises the awareness of our local traditions.
It’s also a nice friendly tradition, no young kids nor any old geezers have a single bad word to say about it.
@Scheel saidI don’t get Marsuder reasoning above. And if intended as a smoke screen, it ain’t.
@AverageJoe1
Sounds like a cool idea your kids got there. Assuming that your kids do not harbor any hostility or resentment towards kids in the other schools in town, why should they not be allowed to show that they consider them self a part of a bigger community of kids across town.
On April 17. we celebrate Sächsilüüte, our traditional spring parade in Zurich, and every ...[text shortened]... a nice friendly tradition, no young kids nor any old geezers have a single bad word to say about it.
Your post, yes, no hostility about other schools, they doin’ their school. Ain’t even thinkin of other schools. They may indeed be allowed to show that they consider themselves a part of a bigger Community, whatever that means. For that matter, they could invite the daughters of the American Revolution to march in their parade.But why do you throw in such a statement to muddy up the post.
Then you write about your Zurich celebration, that you have a right to do anything you want to….invite anybody. And you even mentioned a nice little word, friendly..
But what are you implying? That this little school SHOULD have invited other flags?!?!
Then, what in the hell would be the purpose of a celebration of this school? To do so would have been to change their school parade to a universal parade, which I can see how a socialist would consider that logical. However, we like self reliance and self loyalty, and self patriotism, to their own school, I disagree with you: think they should be allowed to have their own private parade to celebrate unto themselves.
What is it with you guys that do all of this silly unnecessary reasoning,.
Simply put, the high school has a private parade. You suggest that schools could ask other schools. Sure they can. But the school does not ask other schools. So to use your word, that is not being friendly.
Geez
@AverageJoe1 saidYou are being disingenuous; of course they and the NFL are "allowed" to structure their events as they please.
I don’t get Marsuder reasoning above. And if intended as a smoke screen, it ain’t.
Your post, yes, no hostility about other schools, they doin’ their school. Ain’t even thinkin of other schools. They may indeed be allowed to show that they consider themselves a part of a bigger Community, whatever that means. For that matter, they could invite the daughters of the Amer ...[text shortened]... n. But the school does not ask other schools. So to use your word, that is not being friendly.
Geez
The NFL is anxious to expand their reach to the 95% of the human race that doesn't live in the US. They felt this halftime show would aid in that project. That's a business decision they are certainly "allowed" to make.
@no1marauder saidScheel is like you. Now HE throws concept of a THIRD scenario at HIS country’s celebration!!!
Because it was designed as a salute to America, North and South, and those countries aren't in America.
Your judges really ask some stupid questions.
Help me Rhonda!!!
All of you do indeed have a common thread.
Anyway, you can take an exit ramp off of this thread, I have put it to bed, chalking up yet another win
@AverageJoe1 saidThanks for your swift reply, here in Zurich we really appreciate that (those who know, understand the joke).
Your post, yes, no hostility about other schools, they doin’ their school. Ain’t even thinkin of other schools. They may indeed be allowed to show that they consider themselves a part of a bigger Community, whatever that means. For that matter, they could invite the daughters of the American Revolution to march in their parade.But why do you throw in such a statement t ...[text shortened]... n. But the school does not ask other schools. So to use your word, that is not being friendly.
Geez
You write that you want to discuss a school parade, maybe that was not your real grief, I don’t know, but I humor you and respond with what I think your school kids might think was worth considering and what their actions for bettering the town might be.
Some people think that it is about NFL corporation, a business that I know little about, those people can probably talk with you about earning money on NFL and how it might be a vehicle of soft power of a country that controls it. But anyways, you did not want it to be the topic. And I’m not smart enough to talk about it.
So coming back to a topic that is more important than football, and that you have correctly identified.
Some kids think that if other schools exist then that is a threat to their school. Some kids think that if an other schools flag is shown, that might diminish their schools flag. I think not.
You ask directly, SHOULD they invite other schools? I think not if they don’t want to, but what if they want to, and something good could come out of it?
However your very original post suggest the very opposite to a free choice, you suggest they should not invite the flag of other schools in to the parade, it should be discouraged, maybe even be illegal.
I’m asking how you think that your kids school would really benefit from this stand? I get it that my anecdotes of traditions in my community is not something for you, but I think you should still tell your kids about how some people successfully have managed the urge to feel opposed to one another.
@Scheel saidThis isn’t about insecurity or feeling threatened. It’s about what the event is for. A parade celebrating one school is about that school. A national championship event in the U.S. is about the host nation and its teams. The question isn’t “Are other schools bad?” It’s “What is this event meant to highlight?”
Thanks for your swift reply, here in Zurich we really appreciate that (those who know, understand the joke).
You write that you want to discuss a school parade, maybe that was not your real grief, I don’t know, but I humor you and respond with what I think your school kids might think was worth considering and what their actions for bettering the town might be.
Some people ...[text shortened]... l your kids about how some people successfully have managed the urge to feel opposed to one another.
And, it’s a parade celebrating my child’s school’s event, holloween or being awarded something ….., the focus is naturally on that school. That doesn’t mean other schools are enemies. It just means that the specific event has a defined purpose..
So my question isn’t whether other schools exist or deserve respect. It’s whether every celebration needs to become a statement about global inclusion, or whether some events are allowed to center on the host alone.
The country has an event with its flag, and the school has a parade with its flag.
And you Misrepresent that I said the high school SHOULD have invited other flags?!?!?! Ha, I think/said no such thing. I’d asked if you are implying that they should. They are free to invite or not invite.
Of course, if they did invite other schools, it would totally dilute the nature and purpose of their parade. Which is exactly what the Super Bowl halftime show did. It minimized and deluded the presence of the United States of America.
Finally you ask should the children’benefit from this stand”?? What STAND??
You will fit in well with the libs here.
@AverageJoe1 saidJesus, it's 13 minutes at a football game not the Fourth of July parade.
This isn’t about insecurity or feeling threatened. It’s about what the event is for. A parade celebrating one school is about that school. A national championship event in the U.S. is about the host nation and its teams. The question isn’t “Are other schools bad?” It’s “What is this event meant to highlight?”
And, it’s a parade celebrating my child’s school’s event, ho ...[text shortened]... children’benefit from this stand”?? What STAND??
You will fit in well with the libs here.
And only petty, little men think honoring other countries or cultures denigrates their own ( and in this case, your own was prominently included).
@no1marauder saida football game
Jesus, it's 13 minutes at a football game not the Fourth of July parade.
And only petty, little men think honoring other countries or cultures denigrates their own ( and in this case, your own was prominently included).