@dood111 saidIt's unfortunate the cop was beaten but the suspect was eventually arrested and will face trial and probable punishment for his actions.
https://www.ptnewsnetwork.com/officer-airlifted-to-hospital-after-a-brutal-beating-while-onlookers-filmed-and-cheered-on-the-assailant/?fbclid=IwAR2zqCgIjZyS5N2R8zkS6qniWibkmphV9XZ088qKmHBylGoLsr9kyVYMKG4
There was no reason for the cop to use deadly force as it was not being used against him.
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@no1marauder saidso just take your beating and hope they stop before you are dead? you people are hopeless.
It's unfortunate the cop was beaten but the suspect was eventually arrested and will face trial and probable punishment for his actions.
There was no reason for the cop to use deadly force as it was not being used against him.
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@mott-the-hoople said(Shrug) The law doesn't allow you to shoot someone every time you get in a fight.
so just take your beating and hope they stop before you are dead? you people are hopeless.
19 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidIf a cop or ANYONE is being beaten down by a superior force they have every right to stop the attack with lethal force.
There was no reason for the cop to use deadly force as it was not being used against him.
@dood111 saidThat's not the law anywhere in the US. Losing a fight doesn't automatically justify the use of deadly force.
If a cop or ANYONE is being beaten down by a superior force they have every right to stop the attack with lethal force.
Here's an explanation of North Carolina deadly force law:
"The use of deadly force is only permissible where one is in imminent danger of death or serious injury. Otherwise, the force (self-defense) must be on par with the force of the attack. For instance, proper self-defense answers a punch with a punch rather than a shot for a punch. Similarly you can’t take out a knife and stab someone who has slapped you. Neither excessive or deadly force can be used during a mild attack or fight."
https://www.stowelawfirmnc.com/when-is-self-defense-actually-self-defense-in-nc/#:~:text=The%20'Stand%20Your%20Ground'%20law%20in%20North%20Carolina%20allows%20one,family%20or%20a%20third%2Dparty.
19 Oct 20
@no1marauder saidWhat about the Zimmerman case?
That's not the law anywhere in the US. Losing a fight doesn't automatically justify the use of deadly force.
Here's an explanation of North Carolina deadly force law:
"The use of deadly force is only permissible where one is in imminent danger of death or serious injury. Otherwise, the force (self-defense) must be on par with the force of the attack. For instance, p ...[text shortened]... Stand%20Your%20Ground'%20law%20in%20North%20Carolina%20allows%20one,family%20or%20a%20third%2Dparty.
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@no1marauder said“ "The use of deadly force is only permissible where one is in imminent danger of death or serious injury”
That's not the law anywhere in the US. Losing a fight doesn't automatically justify the use of deadly force.
Here's an explanation of North Carolina deadly force law:
"The use of deadly force is only permissible where one is in imminent danger of death or serious injury. Otherwise, the force (self-defense) must be on par with the force of the attack. For instance, p ...[text shortened]... Stand%20Your%20Ground'%20law%20in%20North%20Carolina%20allows%20one,family%20or%20a%20third%2Dparty.
The cop had every right to repel the attack with what ever means available under that law. You seem to have a magic ball that can foresee the future.
@athousandyoung saidIf I recall correctly, Zimmerman claimed both that A) Martin was pounding his head on the concrete; and B) That Martin tried to grab his gun (which Zimmerman claimed he forgot he had).
What about the Zimmerman case?
Those are both pretty implausible but apparently not to the jury, at least for them to reject them beyond a reasonable doubt.
@mott-the-hoople saidNo, he didn't. He was not in "imminent danger of death or serious injury” by any objective standard (it's unclear he even thought he was; he didn't, after all, draw his gun).
“ "The use of deadly force is only permissible where one is in imminent danger of death or serious injury”
The cop had every right to repel the attack with what ever means available under that law. You seem to have a magic ball that can foresee the future.
The arguments you and others are making would allow anyone in a fight to shoot dead the other person in every single case. That is clearly not the law and you should stop claiming it is.