11 Sep 08
Is anyone else tired of retailers like the Gap, Kenneth Cole, Target, etc. trying to one-up each other to see who can be more "green," promote more diversity, save more refugees, etc., etc., etc.? I think I'm social justiced out and would just like the retail chains I shop at to just sell me blue jeans, shoes, underwear, etc., and quit trying to guilt me into buying t-shirts designed by Bono so they can give a few pennies per shirt to save Africa. I guess I could say the same for my politicians.
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by MrHandYou ought to know by now that I do not support socialism:
I agree that often it is nothing more than lip service, but you don't think that the people that make your jeans should be paid a living wage?
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Who said anything about socialism.
Do you think we should pay slave wages here in the US? If not, how is it different for other places if you buy goods that are made there? I would like the companies that I buy clothes from to pay reasonable wages to their employees. I will gladly pay more for clothes or other goods if I am convinced that a company is doing this rather than saving money by buying from a company that I feel may be exploiting its labor force.
I welcome these initiatives.
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by MrHandIsn't America wonderful? You are certainly free to pay more for your organic food and fair trade goods, but don't ask me to.
Who said anything about socialism.
Do you think we should pay slave wages here in the US? If not, how is it different for other places if you buy goods that are made there? I would like the companies that I buy clothes from to pay reasonable wages to their employees. I will gladly pay more for clothes or other goods if I am convinced that a company is d ...[text shortened]... ng from a company that I feel may be exploiting its labor force.
I welcome these initiatives.
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by MrHandI refuse to shop at walmart or other big box stores. I'de rather pay a bit more for US or Canadian made clothes at a small retailer. They fit better, and last longer, so in the end i actually pay less, as I need new clothes less often.
Who said anything about socialism.
Do you think we should pay slave wages here in the US? If not, how is it different for other places if you buy goods that are made there? I would like the companies that I buy clothes from to pay reasonable wages to their employees. I will gladly pay more for clothes or other goods if I am convinced that a company is d ...[text shortened]... ng from a company that I feel may be exploiting its labor force.
I welcome these initiatives.
btw I am a socialist
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterHere's a thought: exercise your American right to boycott them. Write
Is anyone else tired of retailers like the Gap, Kenneth Cole, Target, etc. trying to one-up each other to see who can be more "green," promote more diversity, save more refugees, etc., etc., etc.? I think I'm social justiced out and would just like the retail chains I shop at to just sell me blue jeans, shoes, underwear, etc., and quit trying to ...[text shortened]... give a few pennies per shirt to save Africa. I guess I could say the same for my politicians.
them letters indicating that you won't purchase products from them while
they continue to 'coddle' to the liberals by supporting their 'agendas.'
If those stores aren't selling the products in the fashion you want them
to, then don't buy them. It's that simple.
Obviously, the Gap, Kenneth Cole, Target and so forth are responding
to market pressures from people who are boycotting them because they
aren't 'green enough' or 'promote enough diversity' or whatever.
I mean, you are a capitalist, right? You recognize that these businesses
are merely trying to broaden their market by doing things that a possible
constituency might desire, right?
I mean, what's the problem here? That the 'liberals' are applying their
American right to speak freely their objections to those companies? That
they are applying their American right not to buy these companies'
products until they meet certain standards?
What's the objection? It seems to me that the market is behaving how it
ought to behave. You just don't like the direction it is going because you
think that companies ought not be 'green,' 'save more refugees,' &c,
that's what I think.
Nemesio
11 Sep 08
Originally posted by der schwarze RitterYou have refused to answer the same question twice now (essentially). I asked you a simple and direct question. Your dodging the question suggests to me that you are so self centered that you would rather save a dollar or two and exploit an impoverished nation than spend more money to do business with a company that pays it's employees reasonably.
Is that how your sociology professor explains it?
This has nothing to do with socialism. Socialism is a system of governing. I'm asking you about your personal preference.
12 Sep 08
Originally posted by MrHandDSR routinely doesn't answer questions. It's part of his MO. He rants on some anti-Liberal topic,
You have refused to answer the same question twice now (essentially). I asked you a simple and direct question. Your dodging the question suggests to me that you are so self centered that you would rather save a dollar or two and exploit an impoverished nation than spend more money to do business with a company that pays it's employees reasonably.
This h ...[text shortened]... ocialism. Socialism is a system of governing. I'm asking you about your personal preference.
usually founded on distorted truths or outright falsehoods and then, when intelligent members of
the progressive movement point out the usually deep flaws in his thinking, he goes AWOL, attacks
their character by calling them 'Pinkos,' or some other non-addressing of the issue.
He has a position and, dammit, it's not gonna change no matter what you say. The only hope
for his threads is to post in response and pray that people who are persuaded by reason read
what you write and realize the deep-seeded hatred and fear which motivate his political and
social stances.
Nemesio
12 Sep 08
Originally posted by duecerYou're loopy. The only way your clothes will fit any better or last longer is if they're custom made.
I refuse to shop at walmart or other big box stores. I'de rather pay a bit more for US or Canadian made clothes at a small retailer. They fit better, and last longer, so in the end i actually pay less, as I need new clothes less often.
btw I am a socialist